Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's, Olds 98 91-96, Buick Lesabres and Park Avenue 91-96. Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.
hammerheart
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:04 pm
So the recent whacky weather caused a massive ice storm to blow through and in the process dropped a tree on my dear Bonneville.
Thankfully the sunroof was the only damaged glass, but now I've got to figure out where the best place is to score a replacement. I was wondering if anyone here has much experience pulling and replacing these things.
Would a pick and pull be my best bet for getting a replacement? How much should I expect to pay and how much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth should I expect in pulling/replacing?
It's my 1992 SSEi if that makes any difference.
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by nos4blood70 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:30 pm
Can't help you on the how part of replacing the sunroof glass, but I'm sure you could find an assembly in a junkyard somewhere. Maybe someone can confirm if the sunroof assembly is the same between 92-95s and 96-99s? That should make your search considerably easier.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:33 pm
I'm also curious if the glass part can be separated from the whole mechanism. My car is 1300 miles away and I may be able to find the glass part locally and ship the part to myself if it doesn't include the track, motor, etc.
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by Boreas » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:49 pm
The last time I had a good look at it, it SEEMS that the glass can be separate from the whole assembly. Look for screws on the inside of the rim.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:51 pm
If that is true then it would be a huge help.
Does anyone have an idea how much I should expect to shell out for a replacement sun/moonroof?
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by 94SilverSSEi » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:53 pm
I'm no expert but from what I've run across a good working complete sunroof would go for about $100. I've seen just the glass for $25-$50.
I think your only option would be a bone yard at this point. I'm sure GM doesn't have any more although, you could try GM parts websites.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:54 pm
Is that from a scrapyard?
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by MattStrike » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:00 pm
Also check out an auto glass replacement shop. they might be able to source something new.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:02 pm
That's a good idea if they can be competitive price wise. Right now my main concern is securing the opening with something more permanent than cardboard and plastic. I'm not too concerned about appearance.
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by 94SilverSSEi » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:03 pm
hammerheart wrote: Is that from a scrapyard?
Yes, junkyard or craigslist too. Never know who has spares.
MattStrike wrote: Also check out an auto glass replacement shop. they might be able to source something new.
Hadn't thought of that Matt, that would save you some labor pulling one if you could find something from a glass shop.
Here's one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-PONTIAC-BO ... 7e&vxp=mtr
Seems a bit steep though. But its free shipping and I'm sure the shipping isn't cheap.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 pm
Are the sunroof parts the same from 92-94?
You guys are awesome btw. That looks like it would be a fantastic deal.
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by 94SilverSSEi » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:06 pm
I don't see why not. I can almost guarantee the glass is the same 1992-1999 but motor/wiring may be different.
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by nos4blood70 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:08 pm
They should be the exactly same between 92-95. After that, maybe minor differences because of the slight refresh.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:08 pm
Very cool.
Thank you all for the input!
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by 95naSTA » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:25 pm
IIRC the glass assembly is only held in by 4 philips head screws.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:28 pm
Can they be accessed without disassembling the whole unit and with the headliner still in?
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by 95naSTA » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:30 pm
I'm pretty sure. If you pull the sun shade back you should be able to see all 4.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:31 pm
If that is true then my life just got a lot easier.
Thanks for your help.
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by 95naSTA » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:43 pm
Looks like there are 6.
95 SLE... a keeper. 241k miles. Low and Slow.
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98 Infiniti vq35'd i30: 13.3@104mph, 30MPG Hwy (RIP)
02 Jag X-type
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05 Chevy Cobalt LS
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07 Ducati Monster S2R 800 with DS1000 swap
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Info on dropping a 92-99:
Here.
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by hammerheart » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:52 pm
Awesome!
Thanks!