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tires dont peel with WOT
If the pavement is dry and with the traction control is on/off the tires won't peel at all. I do get full power and the speed I want but the car barely burn rubber. Is this normal?
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
WOT from a stop is pretty much pointless in my experience because of the wheelspin.
I wouldn't try to create it; it's not a good idea on a car known to shear the differential pin under such conditions.
But no, I don't think that's normal unless the T/C is intervening. Are you at a higher altitude where the air is thinner? That would make a huge difference.
I wouldn't try to create it; it's not a good idea on a car known to shear the differential pin under such conditions.
But no, I don't think that's normal unless the T/C is intervening. Are you at a higher altitude where the air is thinner? That would make a huge difference.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
I don't do WOT often but it would be nice to hear the tires spin ever once in awhile and not chirp. I stay in Chicago. When I don't give it a lot of gas, the car still has power to pass, get to.55mph with no hesitation.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
You should be able to screech them on demand. Sounds like something isn't right.
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I'll try posting a video through my phone so u all can see and hear what's going on. I don't have an SES light anymore since I changed the catalytic converter and I just recently gutted my airbox. The only tone I notice wheel spin but not a lot on these conditions is when I make a turn and gas on it.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
Steve, burning in a turn is the WORST thing you can do to your differential. Unequal loads on each side of the differential will shear that pin. Don't do that any more until you invest in an LSD.

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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
On a stock car it's hard to get rubber from going into it from a dead stop. Turn the Traction Control off, Put your foot on the brake, rev the engine to 2k RPM and punch it as you get off the brake, and you should light them up.
I agree, one-wheel peals and burning while turning are terrible for your diff and trans as a whole.
I agree, one-wheel peals and burning while turning are terrible for your diff and trans as a whole.
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willwren wrote:Steve, burning in a turn is the WORST thing you can do to your differential. Unequal loads on each side of the differential will shear that pin. Don't do that any more until you invest in an LSD.
I'll keep that in mind but, I don't do this often either. Just sharing how my car reacts.
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Don't do it EVER Steve. Don't ruin another car.

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00Beast wrote:On a stock car it's hard to get rubber from going into it from a dead stop.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
the 01 ssei i test drove was bone stock and it spun both of them pretty good thru first and then hooked right before it shifted to second
im with haro on this..if it isnt at least spinning them for 5 feet in a somewhat straight line
theres a problem.
im with haro on this..if it isnt at least spinning them for 5 feet in a somewhat straight line
theres a problem.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
Seconded, all my Bonnevilles (All N/A Series II, with both transmissions) could spin the tires just fine.harofreak00 wrote:00Beast wrote:On a stock car it's hard to get rubber from going into it from a dead stop.I don't agree at all. Shannon's car is 100% stock... it will light em up anytime.
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I'm jealous...all of you all have cars that spin.from a stand still and mine just chirp. I would like to know what I could do to fix this.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
Wouldn't replacing your differential with a LSD help? I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there. Hopefully somebody will chime in.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
The LSD will make it HARDER to squeal the tires, as they both will have drive traction at the same time. Even in a straight line, and OEM (open) diff equipped car like most on this forum will burn twins, but they don't actually start burning at the same moment. One side lags by half a second, transferring the entire load to one side of the diff during that moment. This is almost as dangerous as burning in a turn.
An LSD won't fix his broken car, either.
An LSD won't fix his broken car, either.

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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
If I lock into first an punch it from a 15mph roll I get spin. Silly wrong wheel drive. Lol.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
pretty bad. you want spin and i'm trying to keep it down to a minimum. spinning the tires is fun sometimes to get some attention. but, i want the push you back in the seat and hold you there kind of take off.
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Also, the limited LSD's that are available are extremely expensive.99BonnevilleSE wrote:Wouldn't replacing your differential with a LSD help? I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there. Hopefully somebody will chime in.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
Actually starting from a dig is the worst thing you can do.seekinhighhp wrote:I'm jealous...all of you all have cars that spin.from a stand still and mine just chirp. I would like to know what I could do to fix this.
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Re: tires dont peel with WOT
you might just have some really sticky rubber. what kind of tires are you running?
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