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Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:16 am
by Bl4z3
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:50 am
by CMNTMXR57
If it's pinned, it's electrical meaning an open in the circuit somewhere as it's reading "infinite" resistance. If it's electrical, it's usually one of two things. The ECT sensor or the stepper motor in the cluster. GM calls for IPC replacement, but sme here will just replace parts internally.
Many in this section (as well as Bonneville's in general), have had similar issues. It could be the wiring too, but usually it's one of the others.
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:54 pm
by cliftonjim
Exactly the problem my wife had with my 2005 GXP, while In FL a number of years ago. Eventually, the temp gauge kept failing regularly, and then the fuel gauge started fluctuating. Last year had the entire cluster replaced, unfortunately outside the warranty. All has been well since then.
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:53 pm
by RJolly87
I believe the DIC throws a message once it starts getting past 260 on the SSEi's. Not sure why GXP would be any different. Can you check coolant temp on the DIC?
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:01 pm
by repinS
You can get a scantool on the car to confirm the temperature reading matches that of the gauge, but my hunch is that the cluster stepper motors have failed. This is a common failure for many mid 2000's GM vehicles - not just the Bonneville. There are many websites who will replace all bulbs and motors in your cluster for anywhere from $100 to $120, and have a quick turnaround. You just have to ship it to them (you can still drive your car without a cluster if you need to). If you're daring enough and are good with soldering/electronics, X25.168 stepper motors can be found on eBay.
The DIC should also warn you if the car is in overheat territory, though the exact temperature threshold escapes me
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:31 am
by CosmicVagabond
Is there a tutorial on how to remove the cluster? I'd like to take mine out and ship it off to have the motors replaced.
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:46 pm
by repinS
There's a reply in your thread posted back in December:
http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/fo ... 36714.html
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:50 pm
by CosmicVagabond
Thanks!
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:57 pm
by Bl4z3
Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:38 am
by CMNTMXR57
So it can't get it up?

Re: Gremlins in my cluster.....
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:54 am
by repinS
Repair, don't replace. That is 100% rebuildable.