Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's, Olds 98 91-96, Buick Lesabres and Park Avenue 91-96. Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.
My oil pan has had some dents for quite awhile and no problems. But when changing the motor mount today. We ended up kind of smushing the oil pan. The whole bottom is just kind of pushed up.
I didn't even dare drive the car because I was afraid of the consequences.
But can I just take the oil pan off and pound the dents out? Or should I just buy a new one? I just replaced the oil pan gasket 2,000 miles ago too.
Also is it possible I could have bent or damage the oil pick up?
Obviously I will know that when I pull the pan but just wondering.
Did you use a jack under it? That is why it is recommended to put a board between the jack and pan.
Anyways, you could probably get a pan pretty cheap from a JY. The best thing to do would be to drop the pan and check out the pick-up. The gasket should be reuseable if it was the metal frame rubber coated version.
myfirstbonnie wrote:Did you use a jack under it? That is why it is recommended to put a board between the jack and pan.
Anyways, you could probably get a pan pretty cheap from a JY. The best thing to do would be to drop the pan and check out the pick-up. The gasket should be reuseable if it was the metal frame rubber coated version.
Could you specify the kind of board? When I supported the engine on my pan, I used a piece of 3/4" plywood under my jack and that wasn't good enough. My pan is now bowed in slightly too. Would a length of 2x6 be sufficient, or do I need something thicker under the jack?
You want something no less than a 2x4 that spans the length or width of the pan depending on which direction you place the board. Basically you want something that will not flex, but yet support the weight. You want the pressure points to be on the walls of the pan, not in the middle.
I would check the oil tube inside the pan, I bent my pan a couple of years ago on the 95 and it just so happend the oil pressure light kept coming on. I hit a racoon and it dented the heck out of the pan but I was unaware of the bent oil pickup tube until the dealership removed the pan. There was a nice ring from the screen on the tube engraved into the pan.
Drop the pan and you will be able to tell right away.
Even if the pickup is undamaged, the dent may have pushed to close to it, which can prevent it from drawing oil from the bottom of the pan. Remove the pan and measure from the gasket surface of the motor to the bottom of the pickup. Then measure from the gasket surface of the pan to the bottom of the dent in the same area.
Compare the two. Or while you've got it off, try to straighten out the pan and re-use it if possible. Get a new gasket first, do NOT use cork. You will need some RTV as well.
Good save. I did the same with Lisa's Buick. It needed a new gasket when we bought it anyway. Next time the SLE needs to drop the pan, one of my freshly banged-straight pans will go on. Zilla already has a hand-selected pan back from the days of the motor swap.
yeah I had a board that was like 2x8x12 or something similar and it was like the perfect size to go under the oil pan but when jacking it up it was also the perfect size to smash the whole bottom of the oil pan up and inch
willwren wrote:Good save. I did the same with Lisa's Buick. It needed a new gasket when we bought it anyway. Next time the SLE needs to drop the pan, one of my freshly banged-straight pans will go on. Zilla already has a hand-selected pan back from the days of the motor swap.
When you do that... I want to know if it has the freak 95 Series I... And if it does that means it has a series II oil pan...
Crap. I don't remember which was which, but there was something odd about the Zilla when I swapped motors. Donor was a low-mileage late-production 95 Buick Riviera. I know it has the lighter of the two cranks, we figured that one out back then.
Then that should be the freak S1/S2 hybrid motor, Bill, which would probably use the S2 style pan.
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I know the plugs (including that magnetic one you posted). I've had people try to sell me the wrong ones before (Rock Auto is notorious for this, they don't know the fine-pitch Series 1 plug for *shoot*).
Lisa's Buick is obviously the same. IIRC, the pans are not interchangeable (95 oddball) otherwise, and if that's the case, the plug will tell the story on the ZiLLA. IIRC, the SLEeper is the fine-pitch though. Have to check the Zilla.
Saved me $70 for a new oil pan
