Hockey Puck Front Mount
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Hockey Puck Front Mount
Ok... So the stock mount on the 03 SLE has too much play for me... I just can't stand it.. Where do I get the Hockey Pucks... How long of a Bolt do I need? Do you double Nut or use a Nylock nut?
As well will a Urethane bushing work on the bottom side of the frame to help absorb vibrations?
Looking for any info here.. Everything I have searched seems a little Vague
As well will a Urethane bushing work on the bottom side of the frame to help absorb vibrations?
Looking for any info here.. Everything I have searched seems a little Vague
Last edited by Jrs3800 on Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
old end link bushing works good for under the bolt head on the bottom
you want three hockey pucks (any sports store), each drilled with a 1/2" hole....
then buy a 8" long bolt, about 6, 2" washers and 2, 1" washers for under the bolt head and under the locking nuts, and two locking nuts for the top
assembly
you want three hockey pucks (any sports store), each drilled with a 1/2" hole....
then buy a 8" long bolt, about 6, 2" washers and 2, 1" washers for under the bolt head and under the locking nuts, and two locking nuts for the top
assembly
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I used a nylon lock nut, and an 8" bolt. the endlinks didn't really help my vibration much to be honest, it is still there.Jrs3800 wrote:Ok... So the stock mount on the 03 SLE has too much play for me... I just can't stand it.. Where do I get the Hockey Pucks... How long of a Bolt do I need? Do you double Nut or use a Nylock nut?
As well will a Urethane bushing work on the bottom side of the frame to help absorb vibrations?
Looking for any info here.. Everything I have searched seems a little Vague
here's mine:


no bottom pics, but it's just a lock nut and an old endlink
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount



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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I actually uses a bushing on each side of the bracket bolted to the top of the mount. I am also using the block style.
The bushing on both sides take out a lot of the vibrations during accelerations and I also did not want a hard return on the bracket when releasing the accelerator.
Basically I have a dampnening bushing for both directions of the twist on the bracket.
There is actually a bushing under the bracket in this photo, and it is not tightened yet either:

I used 1/2" all thread with nyloc nuts and drilled out the bushings and used some large washers.
The bushing on both sides take out a lot of the vibrations during accelerations and I also did not want a hard return on the bracket when releasing the accelerator.
Basically I have a dampnening bushing for both directions of the twist on the bracket.
There is actually a bushing under the bracket in this photo, and it is not tightened yet either:

I used 1/2" all thread with nyloc nuts and drilled out the bushings and used some large washers.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
Ryan, I had put that rubber marshmallow I bought from you on the first time (actually Juan did) because my stock one went to crap, and after it was installed, I was still getting the vibrations at OD, so I'm glad you posted that you were experiencing the same thing so that I know I wasn't going bananas. I went out to O'Reilly's and bought an aftermaket OEM mount, in which case that took care of the vibe problem, however, the engine now shakes like it did before, and this mount looks like it going to the garbage can real quick, so I'll also be trying the pucks this time (or maybe back to the MM again depending on two factors).
a. it is properly fastened this time
b. I want NO vibrations whatsoever at the different speeds.
a. it is properly fastened this time
b. I want NO vibrations whatsoever at the different speeds.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
The bushing needs to be between the washer and the subframe on the underside of the subframe, that will really cut down on the vibs, it did for me. I ran the bolt from the top down.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I've got that as well as dampening on both sides of the bracket up top and i still get vibrations. I know some don't, but I do.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
If that ends up being the case, I think I'll let Dr. Juan install the pucks instead. He swears on a stack of bibles that he doesn't get these vibes in his BV.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
Guys, motor/transmission mounts do two things.
1) Stabilize the engine/trans to eliminate unneccesary rocking (thereby eliminating clunking, thunking, and what not when a sharp transition, or gear shift is made).
2) To isolate the natural rocking and vibration that an engine naturally makes so as not to transmit that as NVH through to the passenger compartment.
By doing the hockey pucks (which being a very hard rubber do have some give in them), or blocks as above, you're fixing point #1 but you're NOT fixing point #2, and may actually be making it worse. This would explain why some feel it to be "rougher" after installation. "Well yea, DUH". That almost like putting solid motor mounts in the car. It helps from a performance standpoint as you eliminate the wasted energy from the engine rocking into power transmission through the chassis, but you're going to feel every misfire, every change in throttle, everything.
Jovan, I'd go back to either the OEM unit, or whatever you can get as an OEM replacement from work. You'll fix #1 and you'll be much more pleased on the highway with #2 as the soft OEM design is MEANT to absorb those rockings and vibrations.
1) Stabilize the engine/trans to eliminate unneccesary rocking (thereby eliminating clunking, thunking, and what not when a sharp transition, or gear shift is made).
2) To isolate the natural rocking and vibration that an engine naturally makes so as not to transmit that as NVH through to the passenger compartment.
By doing the hockey pucks (which being a very hard rubber do have some give in them), or blocks as above, you're fixing point #1 but you're NOT fixing point #2, and may actually be making it worse. This would explain why some feel it to be "rougher" after installation. "Well yea, DUH". That almost like putting solid motor mounts in the car. It helps from a performance standpoint as you eliminate the wasted energy from the engine rocking into power transmission through the chassis, but you're going to feel every misfire, every change in throttle, everything.
Jovan, I'd go back to either the OEM unit, or whatever you can get as an OEM replacement from work. You'll fix #1 and you'll be much more pleased on the highway with #2 as the soft OEM design is MEANT to absorb those rockings and vibrations.

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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I think we all realize that.. this is just a more permanent solution, as the OEM mounts seem to go out again and again.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
But your "permanent solution" isn't fixing point #2. Or at least not fixing it to a level of satisfaction HE wants!
I know Jovan personally. Jovan wants Lincoln Town Car/Cadillac Sedan DeVille, highway, pillow like, cruiser ride. He's NOT going to be happy feeling every RPM the engine makes.
So if he needs to replace another OEM style one in 30k, He'll do it without batting an eyelash. Truth be told (and I tease him of this), he probably won't have the car for another 30k.
I know Jovan personally. Jovan wants Lincoln Town Car/Cadillac Sedan DeVille, highway, pillow like, cruiser ride. He's NOT going to be happy feeling every RPM the engine makes.
So if he needs to replace another OEM style one in 30k, He'll do it without batting an eyelash. Truth be told (and I tease him of this), he probably won't have the car for another 30k.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I like "feeling" the car, so the vibs I do get dont bother me. The bonneville is a Sport Sedan, well thats what I call it.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
You and I both. But Jovan DOESN'T!01bonneSC wrote:I like "feeling" the car, so the vibs I do get dont bother me. The bonneville is a Sport Sedan, well thats what I call it.
I run either solid or a poly mount in my performance cars, trust me, I FEEL everything a camming motor does!

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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
Jovan----- "Go buy a Caddy!!" lol jk jk
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Naw, he prefers a *dang* Lincoln. I can't get him out of them!! When I take him to the auto show, I just drop him off at the Lincoln exhbit and then set a time to pick him up a couple hours later... :D01bonneSC wrote:Jovan----- "Go buy a Caddy!!" lol jk jk

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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
Yeah I get vibes from mine at certain times. I got some rubber bushings, but I kept blowing them out. The first time I tightened and squished it too much. The second time I didn't tighten it as much, but it still broke apart. I went to lowes and got some rubber washers instead. They worked out well. I'm going to go get a few more and put some in a few spots to see if that helps the vibrations any.
I want to say the bolt I got was only 4.5 or 5 inches long.
I want to say the bolt I got was only 4.5 or 5 inches long.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
I never liked the puck only design so I bought a heavy duty rubber grout smoother for tile jobs and cut out puck circles to help improve the vibrations and shock. Going to install soon so ill let you know how it goes.
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Re: Hockey Puck Front Mount
Holy grave digger!!!
When you do get it installed, please just start a new thread about it and copy past a link to this if you want. We are always welcoming new ideas on the soils mount, just don't dig up 3 year old threads. Carry on though, interested in others ideas and fab work!! Pics!
When you do get it installed, please just start a new thread about it and copy past a link to this if you want. We are always welcoming new ideas on the soils mount, just don't dig up 3 year old threads. Carry on though, interested in others ideas and fab work!! Pics!


