After an entire year of waiting..(video on 3rd page)
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Jeezus. You got taken for sure. I don't understand how they can change the price that much. Next time you need exhaust work check out Fair Muffler, They are familiar with the 3800 and do good work.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Dang man, that sucks! I would have given him the origional amount and called the police if he didn't release the car. I had to do that at pep boys once. Once I threatened calling the police, they caved real quick! If you paid by check or credit card I would cancel payment on it. It usually costs about $25 to cancel a check at your bank. If you paid cash then you really cant do much.
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1994 Pontiac Grand Prix 3100 180k SOLD :(

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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Ditto. It's always best to get a quote in writing alsograndprix104 wrote:Dang man, that sucks! I would have given him the origional amount and called the police if he didn't release the car.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
heres the thing
i did call the police
they couldnt do jack *shoot*
they said it was a civil matter not criminal
so i had to pay the full amount or i couldnt get my car
and take him to court for the difference
which isnt worth spending like 500 on a lawyer..
so basicly he got away with it..
BUT im spreding word fast to everyone i know
to tell everyone they know, that his shop is just a big scam
i did call the police
they couldnt do jack *shoot*
they said it was a civil matter not criminal
so i had to pay the full amount or i couldnt get my car
and take him to court for the difference
which isnt worth spending like 500 on a lawyer..
so basicly he got away with it..
BUT im spreding word fast to everyone i know
to tell everyone they know, that his shop is just a big scam
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harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
They can do jack *shoot*. It is a criminal matter because the are holding your property hostage. It is the same as stealing. Either way it works to get a statement filed with the police that can be referenced in court.
Also, just because you can't afford the lawyer, doesn't mean you can't take them to court. Any court with decent evidence provided will find in your favor. The question is do you have evidence and time to spend in court. Small claims cases, are hardly ever worh the money to hire a lawyer. If you get estimates from other shops on how much the job would have cost/time taken, and show how they took far to long to do the job. You should have a decent case. Even better if you have an estimate from the beginning. You see cases like this all the time on courtTV.
Also, just because you can't afford the lawyer, doesn't mean you can't take them to court. Any court with decent evidence provided will find in your favor. The question is do you have evidence and time to spend in court. Small claims cases, are hardly ever worh the money to hire a lawyer. If you get estimates from other shops on how much the job would have cost/time taken, and show how they took far to long to do the job. You should have a decent case. Even better if you have an estimate from the beginning. You see cases like this all the time on courtTV.
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1994 Pontiac Grand Prix 3100 180k SOLD :(

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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
to be honest mike i am 70% sure they would pay you off anyways as long as they are a larger company. all those cases you hear that we all laugh at like the lady spilling coffee at mcdonalds. common we all know coffee is hot but she sued and mcdonalds paid her off before the court date to keep mcdonald's name off the records.
i would threaten them with the original quote of theirs the finished quote and get quotes from some other places. including mom + pop shops and some of the bigger guys like midas and merlin and pep boys. get all that quotes in their face and say i will take you to court if you fail to pay back the difference of your original and ending quotes.
i would threaten them with the original quote of theirs the finished quote and get quotes from some other places. including mom + pop shops and some of the bigger guys like midas and merlin and pep boys. get all that quotes in their face and say i will take you to court if you fail to pay back the difference of your original and ending quotes.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Just because I'm from the area and i have a huuuuuuge beef with a local exhaust shop... What's the name of the place that screwed you over?
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
rock n roll auto
some older guy and his son run it
his son is like 24 25
hes like 60
and the cops said they couldnt do anything, and left so i had no other options
i paid the a$$hat, and then i called the BBB to see wawt they can do, and theyll call me back on monday
some older guy and his son run it
his son is like 24 25
hes like 60
and the cops said they couldnt do anything, and left so i had no other options
i paid the a$$hat, and then i called the BBB to see wawt they can do, and theyll call me back on monday
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harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Wait... Did this include them installing your headers? FWIW The Header install by itself can be around 300.
Re: After an entire year of waiting..
From the sounds of it they installed the headers too. Header installs really really suck. But I did it in the driveway with jackstands and one helper in about 8 hours or so. But the point is that they should have upheld the original estimate or been within $100 or so. Or at least called to say hey it is going to be a bunch more so what do you want to do. You can't just charge whatever you want and then hold the car hostage until it is paid for. That is rediculous.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
I kind of have a thing for header Installs on Bonne's. I've went from stock manifolds to Pem's, to Pacesetters to SLP's. Getting the Pacesetters off and SLP's in took about 2 to 3 hours.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
agreed i did my SLP's in about 5 hours, and that included taking off the stock Manis
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
well the guy said that it would only take 4-6 hours for the whole job,
that he works on pontiacs all the time,
that its nothin big,
he also failed to mention that hes never worked on a bonneville before..
AND didnt know until he popped the hood that it was FWD..
all in all, its all done, i have my car back, and im out 300 extra dollars
on the upside, its a bad@$$ system, that sounds amazing.
that he works on pontiacs all the time,
that its nothin big,
he also failed to mention that hes never worked on a bonneville before..
AND didnt know until he popped the hood that it was FWD..
all in all, its all done, i have my car back, and im out 300 extra dollars
on the upside, its a bad@$$ system, that sounds amazing.
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harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
It's dropped off under a mechanic's lien. He has property over it, if work is not paid for.grandprix104 wrote:They can do jack *shoot*. It is a criminal matter because the are holding your property hostage. It is the same as stealing. Either way it works to get a statement filed with the police that can be referenced in court.
Also, just because you can't afford the lawyer, doesn't mean you can't take them to court. Any court with decent evidence provided will find in your favor. The question is do you have evidence and time to spend in court. Small claims cases, are hardly ever worh the money to hire a lawyer. If you get estimates from other shops on how much the job would have cost/time taken, and show how they took far to long to do the job. You should have a decent case. Even better if you have an estimate from the beginning. You see cases like this all the time on courtTV.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
Which we still haven't gotten to hear by the wayMadMike wrote: on the upside, its a bad@$$ system, that sounds amazing.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
ya about that.. lol im looking for a camera right now
my brother decided to hide his camera
my brother decided to hide his camera
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
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247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
ok now i got the video, but i cant find the cable to hook up the camera to the computer! >:(
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247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
man, that is the lamest forum excuse ever! am i jsut strange in having 20+ USB cables laying around the house?
(i mean videos)
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
i now have 2 videos
but still no cable
it uses a mini usb (same thing as a razr)
and the two we own are missing..
this is pissing me off
but still no cable
it uses a mini usb (same thing as a razr)
and the two we own are missing..
this is pissing me off
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: After an entire year of waiting..
No, we have it too.bonnevillain wrote:man, that is the lamest forum excuse ever! am i jsut strange in having 20+ USB cables laying around the house?
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