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Post by MadMike »

well ive been looking into some bigger toys for the ride,
and heres wat ive some up with within my set budget.

stage one cam, (with all the gaskets and such needed of course)
rockers <--- not bothering atm, un needed
hd axle kit, with the gen III lsd <--- diff possible, but the whole thing isnt needed
intercooler <--- unknown yet
2.9 pulley
245mm torque converter w/ a 3000 stall
(unsure wat else to get for the trans parts, input is needed)

OH and i think im gonna go with a 50 or even a 75 shot of No2

anything i missed thats needed for these?
i know these are the big things i want, and need to get into the 12's

ALL critisim is welcome, i cant do this by myself :beerchug:
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Post by agrazela »

Nice toy list.

Why rockers with the cam?

Clutch-based LSD's have a reputation for grenading. Better off with stock, IMO.
However, can you afford a gear-based LSD (e.g., Torsen)? Like $2k or so :eek:

If you want to know about 4T65E upgrades, talk to Dave here:
http://www.tripleedgeperformance.com/

(He's also "Trannyman95" on grandprixforums.net)

Which IC?

And you will be needing a tuner, for sure.
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agrazela wrote:Nice toy list.

Why rockers with the cam?

Clutch-based LSD's have a reputation for grenading. Better off with stock, IMO.
However, can you afford a gear-based LSD (e.g., Torsen)? Like $2k or so :eek:

Which IC?

And you will be needing a tuner, for sure.
rockers i didnt mean to add into the list :P im retarded from time to time, i was just going to do rockers, but i found out cam is more power for a seemingly less cost

the lsd is the intense one, is that the one your talking about that breaks? id hope not

a nice 11x32 front mount to scare off the silly ricers

and the tuner, i plan on bringing the car out to intense for installation of the cam, and will have the car tuned there possibly.

the other things i think i can handle :beerchug:
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question, is and intercooler even nessisary with the mods i want to do?
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Necessary only depends on where you want to end up.
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Post by Allmachtige »

I was always under the impression that you should put in aftermarket 1.6 rockers with a cam for a solid setup. That's my plan anyway.
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It is not necessary. Many people run stock rockers with a cam. Adding rockers would serve only to lighten the valve train slightly.

When I was planning the build Todd at Intense made the recommendation that some money could be saved or used for other things by not replacing the stock rockers.
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You'll need either modded fuel rails or fuel logs for an I/C. I'd stick with the stock rockers as opposed to spending an extra couple hundred to save a couple ounces. If you put the stock rockers back on a set of 105# springs for the cam you can always go back later and upgrade to some 1.6 RR's fairly easy.

HD axle kit? your 4t65hd already has the HD axles. Are you talking about those aftermarket ones from that shop down in FL that tommygloves and a couple other guys on here have?

Good luck with your build though, sounds like a decent chunk of change.
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http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/mer ... ory_Code=T
this kit, as far as i know, theres nothing like this on my car
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you already have a HD trans......
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wait, how do i have the hd trans?
is that the stock for the 03 SSEi?
as far as i knew i only had the 4t65e not the hd
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All SSEis from '92 - '03 came with the HD trans.
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well thats great news, saved me a grand or so :P

hmm, ill just put that into other trans parts
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Hopefully with all the rebuilds your trans has had the shop didn't fudge anything up and think it was the 4t65e
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1994se wrote:Hopefully with all the rebuilds your trans has had the shop didn't fudge anything up and think it was the 4t65e
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They couldn't. If they changed out the HD parts his passenger axle wouldn't have reached the transmission. The HD axle is shorter than the non hd. Afterall..the HD difference is 3-4 parts and can easily be changed w/o removing the transmission from the vehicle. This is why if someone is talking about swapping fron NA to SC, an entire drop out is not necessary unless they are changing from S1 to S2 or have a preference to the 2.93 gearing.
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hmmm interesting, didn't realize that's all there was too it. It's really starting to bother me, what's the name of that place in florida that sells the beefed up axles? something with pulley in the name i think.
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Post by 2003 SSEi »

southflorida pulley headquarters

http://www.southfloridapulleyhq.com/SFP ... shafts.htm

and there are 9sec cars running stock axles
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Post by 1994se »

True, but there are also 13 second cars breaking stock axles, not to mention input shafts, so *shoot* does happen. Not saying I am going out of my way to buy those axles but if i break a stocker it would be tempting to upgrade.
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hmm, this is all very good stuff, ill consider the axles when i break one :P
i have more stock axles at my buddys garage, he got em from the junk yard :D

anyways, back to the intercooler, will i NEED it to run the 2.9/3.0 pulley?
i read with the cam you can run a smaller pulley, but i wanna know how small i can go!
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Injectors


Like Boosty mentioned, figure out what you want the car to be/do, put a plan together and stick to it. If you don't, you'll end up on motor #4 that is forged with a turbo hanging off the side :wink:
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