Clear the Rear and install some LED
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Clear the Rear and install some LED
Now that I have my front looking the way I want for now, I was wondering if the rear left and right excluding the center could go in the oven as the headlights for the clearing process?
Another thing I plan on investing in the switch bulb/Switch back LED. Have you guys done this? What is the equalizer (LED Flasher Replace) needed for this upgrade? They show EP 26, EP 27, and EP 20.(http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm) I know we do not go up to 150w and I am having a hard time identifying the LED Flasher Replace. Any input on this idea is more than appreciated, I think the ride would look real clean with a clear bulb that flashes orange when the signal is activated.
Another thing I plan on investing in the switch bulb/Switch back LED. Have you guys done this? What is the equalizer (LED Flasher Replace) needed for this upgrade? They show EP 26, EP 27, and EP 20.(http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm) I know we do not go up to 150w and I am having a hard time identifying the LED Flasher Replace. Any input on this idea is more than appreciated, I think the ride would look real clean with a clear bulb that flashes orange when the signal is activated.
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Some people have done it the same way as the headlights on other forums, I've never seen it done personally. These lights delaminate at the drop of a hat as it is, so I can't imagine it's fool-proof...
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
To my knowledge, there is no aftermarket flasher available that will work as a direct fit with the 2000+ Bonneville. We have a flasher "module" that is integrated into the four-way flasher switch. The simplest solution in this case would be to add load resistors to act as dummy loads so that your turn signals don't flash too fast.
For swapping TWO out of four turn signals, use 6 ohm load resistors on each circuit (left, right). This is what I have, I simply spliced them into the rear taillight harness and tucked them out of the way. Try to keep them isolated from plastic or parts that may be sensitive to heat. For swapping out ALL FOUR turn signals front and rear, use 3 ohm load resistors.
An unfortunate side effect of this is that you won't know if your LED turn signals have burnt out. You also will not have any energy savings from the low current draw of the LED's.
I also went with http://www.v-leds.com for their 3057/3157 bulbs. Expensive, but I took advantage of the Black Friday deals they had and got these: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulb ... 6-1-2.html - you will probably want similar. No need for a switchback bulb for the rear turn signal.
For swapping TWO out of four turn signals, use 6 ohm load resistors on each circuit (left, right). This is what I have, I simply spliced them into the rear taillight harness and tucked them out of the way. Try to keep them isolated from plastic or parts that may be sensitive to heat. For swapping out ALL FOUR turn signals front and rear, use 3 ohm load resistors.
An unfortunate side effect of this is that you won't know if your LED turn signals have burnt out. You also will not have any energy savings from the low current draw of the LED's.
I also went with http://www.v-leds.com for their 3057/3157 bulbs. Expensive, but I took advantage of the Black Friday deals they had and got these: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulb ... 6-1-2.html - you will probably want similar. No need for a switchback bulb for the rear turn signal.
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
This.repinS wrote: No need for a switchback bulb for the rear turn signal.
You don't have the parking light go through it, so IDK how you'd make a switch-back work w/o way too much work to be worth it. Plus it's illegal to have white light emitting from the rear in drive. People would think you're in reverse...
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
I'm running the same rear turn signal LED's and have been very pleased with them. They are very bright and look much better! Everything mentioned above is spot on! Good response Jerry!repinS wrote:To my knowledge, there is no aftermarket flasher available that will work as a direct fit with the 2000+ Bonneville. We have a flasher "module" that is integrated into the four-way flasher switch. The simplest solution in this case would be to add load resistors to act as dummy loads so that your turn signals don't flash too fast.
For swapping TWO out of four turn signals, use 6 ohm load resistors on each circuit (left, right). This is what I have, I simply spliced them into the rear taillight harness and tucked them out of the way. Try to keep them isolated from plastic or parts that may be sensitive to heat. For swapping out ALL FOUR turn signals front and rear, use 3 ohm load resistors.
An unfortunate side effect of this is that you won't know if your LED turn signals have burnt out. You also will not have any energy savings from the low current draw of the LED's.
I also went with http://www.v-leds.com for their 3057/3157 bulbs. Expensive, but I took advantage of the Black Friday deals they had and got these: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulb ... 6-1-2.html - you will probably want similar. No need for a switchback bulb for the rear turn signal.
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
For additional reference, these are the load resistors I have: http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning-Fi ... 6-1-3.html
Install guides and other resistor packages with mounting brackets are available there as well. Snoop around!
Install guides and other resistor packages with mounting brackets are available there as well. Snoop around!

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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
My Bonneville has the combination 4 way and turn signal all in one flasher. If you don't want to go through the trouble installing load resistors, there is a fairly easy fix.
remove the flasher assembly by prying it out of the dash (the 4 way flasher assembly) carefull not to damage the dash. Remove the flasher from the wire harness. Open the flasher assembly. You may have to break the clips holding it together. Remove the circuit board by prying on the case and black plug. It is held in the case by the front switch and button - it will eventually come out. There is a 4.7ufd capacitor between the relay (black box) and the pins. This must be replaced with a 22ufd 35vdc electrolytic (Radio Shack part # 272-1026). If you're not comfortable soldering, take it to an electronics store and have it done. That is all that is needed. Be carefull on re-assembling the circuit board back into the housing. The bulb on the front must be aligned to fit the recess in the front button. If you happened to break the tabs off when opening the case, wrap it with back tape. I used the 68 LED bulbs both front and rear. The flash timing is perfect.
remove the flasher assembly by prying it out of the dash (the 4 way flasher assembly) carefull not to damage the dash. Remove the flasher from the wire harness. Open the flasher assembly. You may have to break the clips holding it together. Remove the circuit board by prying on the case and black plug. It is held in the case by the front switch and button - it will eventually come out. There is a 4.7ufd capacitor between the relay (black box) and the pins. This must be replaced with a 22ufd 35vdc electrolytic (Radio Shack part # 272-1026). If you're not comfortable soldering, take it to an electronics store and have it done. That is all that is needed. Be carefull on re-assembling the circuit board back into the housing. The bulb on the front must be aligned to fit the recess in the front button. If you happened to break the tabs off when opening the case, wrap it with back tape. I used the 68 LED bulbs both front and rear. The flash timing is perfect.
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Hi all, I am experiencing the fast flash as though I had installed LED bulbs or have a bad bulb, looking of the car I see all 4 bulbs working correctly, and all are the proper standard bulb. I tried a second flasher unit, and get a slightly slower (very slight) but still fast flash. I get the same outcome for left turn, right turn or hazards. Any recommendations on where to look next?
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
You need to wire in resistors.
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Ohm's law and a multimeter will get you the resistor ohm-age you need.

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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
I would need to add resistors even with standard (incandescent) bulbs?
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
update 2- i tried adding a 25 ohm and a 50 ohm resistor (one at a time) to the left rear turn signal circuit, neither had any impact on the flasher speed. From the wiring diagram I only see 4 bulbs, am I missing something somewhere in the circuit?
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Sorry, I mis-read your post. I thought you got a fast blink after installing LEDs and didn't swap back to filament bulbs.
That's weird that it's still blinking fast. I'm not sure what the issue is.
That's weird that it's still blinking fast. I'm not sure what the issue is.

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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Have you checked the bulb sockets for corrosion?
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Re: Clear the Rear and install some LED
Yes, and I found a little corrosion in one, but that did not make a difference. I broke down and ordered a new flasher and that seems to have fixed it. Thanks



