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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Yes it is! :banana: I posted something back in October about it but things finally lined up to move the tank to its new residence. So far most of my tools and quite a few parts for the car are in there but it is just a matter of reorganizing it so that the car can be pulled in.

On the other part though.... I used to live in Southern Arizona. While the weather wasn't too bad, the unfriendly local critters and living in the middle of nowhere was not for me. On occasion they would even make working on things a bad idea. Wolf spiders under the hood are not pleasant to deal with :eek2:
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Quick Update and a Question.....

The project is finally restarting! While I am sad that I cannot make sparks fly yet, I have to get the space ready first. I grabbed a few larger parts off the parts Bonneville which need to be broken down and all of my tool boxes and some of my tools are in poor shape. My younger self didn't value putting stuff back and with the boxes being stored away from me, it didn't allow for me to fix my mistake sooner. Many of my tools ended up in buckets and totes. But this has given me a chance to get a few more toys and rectify a mistake.

Does anyone know what the difference in the harness codes for the fuel sender for a 90? The tank was in pretty poor shape and so was the sender, but I didn't document anything before sending it off to the scrapyard.

Photos and an actual project update will be coming soon.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Which fuel pump do you have? The difference is one is 1.45" diameter with a regular clip on the wire harness, the other is a 2" diameter pump that has screw-on connections to the wire harness.

I believe the CPL code is for the 2" pump with screw-on connections.
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Thank you MattStrike .
I believe I have the pump with the screw on connectors.
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I was wrong about the pump... it is the smaller pump with the other type of connector.

The car finally got moved into the garage, but....... I didn't manage to free up enough space to really move around in. :evil: :banghead: Until the next update though, I will leave these here to illustrate how bad the problem is.

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After finally collecting a couple tools back from under the parts car, the main goal was to get the beast airborne again... :banana:

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But this brings up a big question.

How does one get those *dang* anti theft nuts off of the car when the tool can't grab on? There is one hubcap stuck on the car still..
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Are they the plastic ones? You need to put enough inward force on it to hold it from slipping out of the grooves when you turn it. Rust penetrant helps too. Once it's off you'll probably need to replace it.
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Yep, it is one of the plastic ones. The problem I had was the hole for the locating pin is in very bad shape.. Someone put way too much force on it in the car's past. I will spray it and try again.
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Now that Mother Nature has started to calm down with the ridiculously low temps.... I finally got back outside to start looking over what I have done and what needs to be done because I really want to have the car back on the road this year. While I do not have any new pictures to show the little bit that I did and the newbie mistake I made :banghead: Although tomorrow should mark the beginning of regular updates again!

Until tomorrow though, I will leave this here in lieu of pictures.

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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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While I didn't work on the car very long today...(flap discs like taking chunks out of fingers quickly).. I did get a chance to remove my mistake and start prepping for the fabrication work I have to do on another area on the rear of the car.

When I started dealing with the first patch, I didn't know anything about plug welds.... So when I got the first piece welded in and covered, seeing light in between the first piece and the rest of the car made my heart sink slightly. So today I took a couple of minutes and tore all of the metal back out. :banghead:
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Yesterday though, lady luck also smiled on me a little bit and allowed me to start getting the trim pieces off of the driver side rear door and part of the wheelwell. This revealed something not so pretty but something that needs to be tackled..
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Rust sucks so much.

Glad to see you're still going at it though.
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Glad you found the cancer now and that you're able to work more on the rebuild now. - BC
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Yikes! That's not pretty, but doesn't look like it's a car killer if you address it. I think Matt's 93 Racekar was worse than that before he fixed it all.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Quick Question!
Due to the location of the rust in the rear wheelwells, I have been trying to pull the rear seat belts with no success. I have tried quite a few things on them and even with the T47 socket... they still stripped. Is there anything else I could try or should I just cut the bolts, and in that case what size should i replace them with?

Right now this is slightly holding me up, and I am hoping that I can have her drivable by the time the summer meet rolls around.
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You should be able to drill the head off the bolt, then once everything flammable is out of the way weld a new 'head' on top of the bolt (a blob of metal), then let it sit in rust penetrant overnight. Hit it hard once with a hammer, and use a pipe wrench to loosen the bolt.
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I am currently waiting for some parts and also working on what should hopefully be a fairly big update. The front end has been giving me a bit of a headache...
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Looks like things are moving ahead now, hopefully it will be rolling under its own power come June! Looking forward to updates. How did you come across the garage space? Having that is a huge plus!
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The weather up here can be a bit wild especially living about a 1/2 mile from the scenic Saginaw River.... But there have been a couple set backs and the update should be coming tomorrow. A package didn't come on time and a bolt on the subframe broke so there shall be much fun to be had :banghead:
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Nice project so far!



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