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have a small or could be big problem

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hey guy its been a while
here is my problem on the 95 bonne 3.8l non super charged
the other night it had a miss fire change coil pack for 5 and 2
ran great till next day cranks no run so with it having 230,000
changed cam and crank sensors now it runs but not well
have to keep foot on pedal to make it stay running
cut cat off didnt change so welded back on
fuel psi at 60 when running any clues
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Might want to swap the ICM out. If you fiddled there and changed a coil, maybe disrupting the connector or the base set something in motion?
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It's a 95, could very well be a PCM too!
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what about timing chain jumpin a tooth or two
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The fuel pressure is kinda high, isn't it?
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J Wikoff wrote:The fuel pressure is kinda high, isn't it?
That is a bit high... A vin K should run from 48-55 Psi... at idle it can see 40-45 Psi... 60 Psi at idle may causing it to run rich..
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ill change the regulator/fuel rail have one that was just pulled off a know running 2000 3.8
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well went to change fuel rail and found that the vaccum hose plug that goes into the
intake had poppped out so put it in and runs like it should. this happen when i wanted to see
if just doing the cam sensor would make it run and it popped threw the intake but didnt click in my head
that it could of done that so then put crank sensor in and it ran but not good.
so the bonne lives again wife will be happy she loves the car
thanks for the help
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95 bonneville sle stock 230,000 miles original engine one trans rebuilt
95 bonneville ssei 163,123 miles rebuilt engine (mean green bonne) sold
95 chevy suburban k1500 203,000 miles wifes truck sold
01 ford f350 crew cab long bed 7.3l diesel 160,000
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Replace your PCV. Maybe your PCV is plugged, and will pop that out again.

Glad it is running better.
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ill do that, now i have a esc failure code
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95 bonneville sle stock 230,000 miles original engine one trans rebuilt
95 bonneville ssei 163,123 miles rebuilt engine (mean green bonne) sold
95 chevy suburban k1500 203,000 miles wifes truck sold
01 ford f350 crew cab long bed 7.3l diesel 160,000
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Is it a code 1351/1361?
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325 code
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95 bonneville sle stock 230,000 miles original engine one trans rebuilt
95 bonneville ssei 163,123 miles rebuilt engine (mean green bonne) sold
95 chevy suburban k1500 203,000 miles wifes truck sold
01 ford f350 crew cab long bed 7.3l diesel 160,000
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Thats a problem with the knock sensor circuit... On the older cars there was 0ne knock sensor on a 5v circuit... On the 95 Series II there were 2 knock sensors on the 5v circuit... The PCM reads in the area of 2.5v from the circuit, chances are you may have issues with the knock sensor circuit or a knock sensor...

Any codes other than this one?
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just that code so this would cause a miss too
i pull one wire at a time at coil packs has spark put the even side is weaker than
odd side
at idle and maybe up to 2000 rpm misses but clears up above 2000rpm
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83 regal 468 big block chevy
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95 bonneville sle stock 230,000 miles original engine one trans rebuilt
95 bonneville ssei 163,123 miles rebuilt engine (mean green bonne) sold
95 chevy suburban k1500 203,000 miles wifes truck sold
01 ford f350 crew cab long bed 7.3l diesel 160,000
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well i checked voltage at knock sensors the one for odd side of block
2.5 volts
even side of block 0 volts
could this be a pcm problem
does this wire go to the coil pack computer
or strait to pcm
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83 regal 468 big block chevy
02 gmc k2500 6'' lift kit 35'' tall tires 148,000 miles original drive train
95 bonneville sle stock 230,000 miles original engine one trans rebuilt
95 bonneville ssei 163,123 miles rebuilt engine (mean green bonne) sold
95 chevy suburban k1500 203,000 miles wifes truck sold
01 ford f350 crew cab long bed 7.3l diesel 160,000
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