Replacing Headlights & Fog's
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Replacing Headlights & Fog's
Im looking for some aesthetically pleasing colored Fog lights and some new Super white Head lights not sure if i want to change the headlight assembly all together but anything is an option ( money to spare ). Any Recommendations?

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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
(I assume this is for the '94 in the signature)
I was going to put HIDs in place of my fogs, and put my headlamps on a relay direct to battery. I was also working on a mini-project to upgrade the low beam bulb socket to a 9007 socket (very intense mod, filament placement is critical so you can't just slob it together and expect good results). That only helps when the high-beams are on though.
But I got thinking reading this - is the beam pattern on the '96-'99 lamp better, and are they close enough to fit?
I was going to put HIDs in place of my fogs, and put my headlamps on a relay direct to battery. I was also working on a mini-project to upgrade the low beam bulb socket to a 9007 socket (very intense mod, filament placement is critical so you can't just slob it together and expect good results). That only helps when the high-beams are on though.
But I got thinking reading this - is the beam pattern on the '96-'99 lamp better, and are they close enough to fit?
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
If you are just after super white (5K or less), you may be better off with simple drop in Halogens, on a relay harness.
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-CrystalVi ... B00480FIEG
I got them on clearance, they were better than what was in the car (tired stock halogens), and living in the country, they work fair enough. Depending on where you are looking, they are mostly white, with a slight blue tint. Others also favor Silverstars, but there have been some complaints on longevity.
My next move is a HIR conversion with relay harnesses, and foglights. I don't care how headlights look, I care how they work. Are they where they should be, and not where they shouldn't be?
It may be a good idea to expound on what you define as 'aesthetically pleasing'.
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-CrystalVi ... B00480FIEG
I got them on clearance, they were better than what was in the car (tired stock halogens), and living in the country, they work fair enough. Depending on where you are looking, they are mostly white, with a slight blue tint. Others also favor Silverstars, but there have been some complaints on longevity.
My next move is a HIR conversion with relay harnesses, and foglights. I don't care how headlights look, I care how they work. Are they where they should be, and not where they shouldn't be?
It may be a good idea to expound on what you define as 'aesthetically pleasing'.
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
The only option you have as far as replacing the headlights with something that looks nicer is a set of '96 - '99 headlights. It has been done a couple times, but it is not at all a simple drop in and be done. The brackets don't even come close to lining up, some custom work has to be done and even then they aren't an exact perfect fit.
When I had my old '93 SSEi I got a huge stone chip / break in one headlight and decided to use a '96-'99 light I had around. It took some work but I was able to get it to fit, though it never was quite right. Those lights do look a lot better though in my opinion, not sure if the beam pattern is any better though.
'96-'99 drivers side headlight on my '93 SSEi


You can see that the inside corner is rounded more then the '92-'95 style.
When I had my old '93 SSEi I got a huge stone chip / break in one headlight and decided to use a '96-'99 light I had around. It took some work but I was able to get it to fit, though it never was quite right. Those lights do look a lot better though in my opinion, not sure if the beam pattern is any better though.
'96-'99 drivers side headlight on my '93 SSEi


You can see that the inside corner is rounded more then the '92-'95 style.
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
When I say aesthetically pleasing im more so speaking toward the Fog Lights(Tint/Brightness) something that maybe hasnt been done. I'm leaning toward something green as far as the fogsRJolly87 wrote:If you are just after super white (5K or less), you may be better off with simple drop in Halogens, on a relay harness.
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-CrystalVi ... B00480FIEG
I got them on clearance, they were better than what was in the car (tired stock halogens), and living in the country, they work fair enough. Depending on where you are looking, they are mostly white, with a slight blue tint. Others also favor Silverstars, but there have been some complaints on longevity.
My next move is a HIR conversion with relay harnesses, and foglights. I don't care how headlights look, I care how they work. Are they where they should be, and not where they shouldn't be?
It may be a good idea to expound on what you define as 'aesthetically pleasing'.
As Far as Headlights it's all up in the air i was hoping i could find something newer to put in but that seems harder done than said.
I like this idea, actually but if this is one of the only options i have i may as well stick to my stocks and just change the bulbs and find something more of a project for my foglightscrash93ssei wrote:The only option you have as far as replacing the headlights with something that looks nicer is a set of '96 - '99 headlights. It has been done a couple times, but it is not at all a simple drop in and be done. The brackets don't even come close to lining up, some custom work has to be done and even then they aren't an exact perfect fit.
When I had my old '93 SSEi I got a huge stone chip / break in one headlight and decided to use a '96-'99 light I had around. It took some work but I was able to get it to fit, though it never was quite right. Those lights do look a lot better though in my opinion, not sure if the beam pattern is any better though.
'96-'99 drivers side headlight on my '93 SSEi
You can see that the inside corner is rounded more then the '92-'95 style.

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K&N Performance A.Filter,
JVC-KDR-530 Head Unit (soon to be replaced w/Alpine CDE-HD138BT)
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
Is it a sheet metal interference, or mostly in the plastic grille?
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
It was mostly the plastic brackets that didn't line up / not enough room. With a little fab work you could probably easily make up a set of brackets to make them fit good.
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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
Definitely gonna look into it about how much did you pay for both?

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Re: Replacing Headlights & Fog's
I got them for free from a friend that had them laying around. They are old though so you shouldn't pay much for them.
Ryan

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