Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Hey guys,
I'm considering getting into a Bonne GXP.
How many miles can I count on one going for that was taken care of?
Do they have head gasket issues like the old northstars did or anything?
I have found a few I like and could afford with about 140K or so on them. Do I stray away from them?
Also, what about the Grand Prix GXP? What about approx same mileage?
Any help would be appreciated. I don't know much about this car platform.
I'm considering getting into a Bonne GXP.
How many miles can I count on one going for that was taken care of?
Do they have head gasket issues like the old northstars did or anything?
I have found a few I like and could afford with about 140K or so on them. Do I stray away from them?
Also, what about the Grand Prix GXP? What about approx same mileage?
Any help would be appreciated. I don't know much about this car platform.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Head gaskets, no, not really as of 2004 and newer. Leaks (all fluids pretty much) and difficulty accessing wear and tear items due to tight engine bay space, yes.
I would stay away from a Bonneville GXP with 140k on the original engine. Ditto to a Grand Prix GXP; the 4T65 transmission cannot handle the power levels that the 5.3L V8 puts through it. My GXP is a bit of an exception, a freak valve spring failure (I have not yet seen any car that's done this at all) meant that the top end was rebuilt at 75,000 miles with head studs and every gasket redone by the best Northstar expert in the continent. It now has 48,000 miles on this motor (122,000 miles on body), runs like a top, and doesn't leak. It'll be for sale soon, but not because it's unreliable [/shameless plug]
I would stay away from a Bonneville GXP with 140k on the original engine. Ditto to a Grand Prix GXP; the 4T65 transmission cannot handle the power levels that the 5.3L V8 puts through it. My GXP is a bit of an exception, a freak valve spring failure (I have not yet seen any car that's done this at all) meant that the top end was rebuilt at 75,000 miles with head studs and every gasket redone by the best Northstar expert in the continent. It now has 48,000 miles on this motor (122,000 miles on body), runs like a top, and doesn't leak. It'll be for sale soon, but not because it's unreliable [/shameless plug]

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91 Honda Civic Wagon DX 2WD (fuelly) -- 208,000km -- 92hp -- Autocross Warrior
09 Lexus LS460 AWD -- 94,000km -- Daily Driver
09 White Hot G8 GT -- 155,000km (fuelly) -- LS3 Cam -- GM LS3 CNC Ported Heads -- Kooks 1 3/4" Long Tube Headers -- Solo Catback Midsection -- Hooker Maxflow Mufflers -- Pat G Tune -- Rotofab Intake -- Tein S-Tech Springs -- GXP FE3 Dampers -- BMR Subframe Cradle Inserts -- BMR Subframe Connectors -- Forgestar F14 Gold 18x9 +40 -- Michelin Pilot Super Sport 245/45/18 -- Maverick Man Carbon Fiber Spoiler
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Agreed with the LS4/4T65 combo. I took it rather easy with my Impala SS for 3 years with an occasional "lets open it up" hop. Even with conservative driving the trans fluid heated up quick and was totally cooked after a year. For some strange reason, GM didn't see fit to include a trans cooler with these models, which was a HUGE mistake.
Also, the LS4 loves to eat oil.
Also, the LS4 loves to eat oil.
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2000 SSEi - Resurrection in progress. Built L67 w/L32 fuel rail, ported heads, and cam. Camaro front brake system, GXP cluster, and much more in planning.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
CMNTMXR57 wrote:
2012 CTS-V Coupe, 4k miles and counting.
2005 Bonneville GXP, 200k and SOLD!J Wikoff wrote:It has been an honor and privilage to have been serviced by you.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
We're going to see a lot more of these threads as the prices come down!

Jerry /// Past: 95 SSEi (June 2010 COTM) -- 04 GXP (July 2011 COTM)
91 Honda Civic Wagon DX 2WD (fuelly) -- 208,000km -- 92hp -- Autocross Warrior
09 Lexus LS460 AWD -- 94,000km -- Daily Driver
09 White Hot G8 GT -- 155,000km (fuelly) -- LS3 Cam -- GM LS3 CNC Ported Heads -- Kooks 1 3/4" Long Tube Headers -- Solo Catback Midsection -- Hooker Maxflow Mufflers -- Pat G Tune -- Rotofab Intake -- Tein S-Tech Springs -- GXP FE3 Dampers -- BMR Subframe Cradle Inserts -- BMR Subframe Connectors -- Forgestar F14 Gold 18x9 +40 -- Michelin Pilot Super Sport 245/45/18 -- Maverick Man Carbon Fiber Spoiler
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Will we need FPFQ (Falling Price = Falling Qaulity), members threads? 

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Time for a GXP info sticky.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
X2.nos4blood70 wrote:Time for a GXP info sticky.
Great cars, I would still own one in a heartbeat no matter what the mileage, but I do all my own work though...
Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
I am ALL for a GXP sticky. I'll write it! 

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Pshhh... like you know anything about the GXP

Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one
MattStrike wrote:It was the worst week of my life! *pause, drinks beer... smiles* But I'm better now!
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
I know nothing.
What I do KNOW, is take a look at what just popped up in Dpnewfie's sig...
SPILL the beans NOW!!! You sonofa... I keep telling the Wife I will sell the GTO for a V-Coupe! She has not come to agreement yet...
What I do KNOW, is take a look at what just popped up in Dpnewfie's sig...
SPILL the beans NOW!!! You sonofa... I keep telling the Wife I will sell the GTO for a V-Coupe! She has not come to agreement yet...

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
Member # 534.96 olds cutlass supreme SL 4 door 3100 4t60 *3.33 gears* *Fe1* 115K bone stock DD
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
I had enough with the bonne and have had my eye on this for a while. I am looking for a beater now so I don't put to many miles on her.
I will get more pics up soon.
I will get more pics up soon.
2012 CTS-V Coupe, 4k miles and counting.
2005 Bonneville GXP, 200k and SOLD!J Wikoff wrote:It has been an honor and privilage to have been serviced by you.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
That's all you have to say??
BTW, welcome to the "V" world.
BTW, welcome to the "V" world.

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
LOL.CMNTMXR57 wrote:That's all you have to say??
I was thinking I'd look at his sig and see he finally made it to 200k....
Well that escalated quickly!
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
I'm still trying to get over the sticker shock.
But, dang, I knew I was going to like having boost!!!! 
2012 CTS-V Coupe, 4k miles and counting.
2005 Bonneville GXP, 200k and SOLD!J Wikoff wrote:It has been an honor and privilage to have been serviced by you.
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
mmmm V coupe!!!!
In all seriousness though, I think you would be great for writing up a GXP sticky.
In all seriousness though, I think you would be great for writing up a GXP sticky.
Ryan

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one

2003 Bonneville SSEi - The Black Mirror SOLD!
2002 Bonneville SE - The Mutt Complete 2004 SLE interior, drivetrain, and body harness swap, ECC swap, HUD swap, black GXP wheels, GXP headlights and tinted tails - SOLD
2003 BMW 540i M Sport, 2001 BMW X5 4.4i, 2010 GMC Acadia, 2017 Grand Design Imagine 3150BH
1982 Cutlass Supreme - The fun one
MattStrike wrote:It was the worst week of my life! *pause, drinks beer... smiles* But I'm better now!
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Re: Bonneville GXP longevity questions
It's worth every penny... Now get a CAI on it and REALLY enjoy that blower whine!

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP
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Thanks. I will start it, then submit it for all to add their $.02 also.crash93ssei wrote:mmmm V coupe!!!!
In all seriousness though, I think you would be great for writing up a GXP sticky.

Retired Bonneville Owner and former GM Tech:
2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP: Black/Ebony *SOLD*
Summer Toys: Combined 827 RWHP / 877lb/ft RWTQ
2004 Pontiac GTO: Impulse Blue Metallic/Black/M6: lots 'o mods, 415 RWHP / 405lb/ft RWTQ!
2006 Cadillac STS-V: Light Platinum Metallic/Light Gray/A6 - Spectre CAI, Magnaflow exhaust, Speed Inc. tune, 412 RWHP / 472lb/ft RWTQ
Daily Drivers:
2019 Chrysler Pacifica Limited: Mommy's new RGC
2015 Chrysler Town & Country Limited Platinum: Kids new RGC
2011 Camaro SS
2009 Pontiac G8 GT: L76, Sport Red Metallic
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD: Victory Red - 8.1L Big Block and Allison
2003 Chevrolet Suburban 2500: Doeskin Tan - 8.1L Big Block... RIP
1999 Chevrolet Suburban: Sunset Gold Metallic - RIP


