found this in transmission pan.....what is it?

[wdudetocool]

does anyone know what this is? found it when i was doing a fluid change....

[00Beast]

Idk, but it's probably why your 3rd and 4th gears don't work...

[cprince]

Is it magnetic?

Is it threaded or have a hole in it anywhere?

It looks like a clip on of some kind... is there a broken surface? Can you take more pictures?

I am wondering if it is part of a bigger piece...

Craig

[cprince]

Here is what I come up with as possibilities based on that picture:


(226) - Wiring Harness Clip



(608) Drive Link Lube Scoop



(804) Manual Shift Detent Assembly

[Jrs3800]

Now we know whats wrong with your trans.... Thats a Broken Band... You need a rebuild... Trans has to be torn down to access the band... so rebuild or replace the trans are the choices...

[01bonneSC]

Doh!!!

[wdudetocool]

Now we know whats wrong with your trans.... Thats a Broken Band... You need a rebuild... Trans has to be torn down to access the band... so rebuild or replace the trans are the choices...

when shopping for a "new" transmission it says there are 7 options available,3 are with superchargers so i know thats not mine,but the other 4 how do i know which is mine?
2.86 ratio (opt FQ3)
ID PAB (13/38)
ID PPB (9/38)
3.05 ratio (opt F83)
ID PBB (1/38)
ID PCB (2/38)
thanks for all your input

[00Beast]

You'll have to crawl under the passenger side of the car, and up by the differential, where the passenger axle goes into, you'll find the metal tag. It will have one of the 4 codes you just posted on it. Likely the first two. You can check on the spare tire cover under the carpet in the trunk whether you have FQ3 or F83, that's the gear ratio in the diff.

[wdudetocool]

You'll have to crawl under the passenger side of the car, and up by the differential, where the passenger axle goes into, you'll find the metal tag. It will have one of the 4 codes you just posted on it. Likely the first two. You can check on the spare tire cover under the carpet in the trunk whether you have FQ3 or F83, that's the gear ratio in the diff.

awesome....will do. thanks.....

[wdudetocool]

LOL-I GUESS I SHOULD VE SIGNED UP FOR ALLDATA SOONER....
TECHNICAL

Bulletin No.: 08-07-30-027

Date: June 04, 2008

Subject:
No Movement When Transmission is Shifted to Drive or Third - Normal Operation When Shifted to Second, First or Reverse (Replace Forward Sprag Assembly)

Models:
1982 - 2005 GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2006 - 2007 Buick Rainier
2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT
2006 Chevrolet SSR
2006 - 2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Colorado, Express, Silverado Classic, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer
2006 GMC Yukon Denali, Yukon Denali XL
2006 - 2008 GMC Canyon, Envoy, Savana, Sierra Classic, Sierra, Yukon, Yukon XL
2006 Pontiac GTO
2006 - 2007 HUMMER H2
2006 - 2008 HUMMER H3
2006 - 2008 Saab 9-7X

with 4L60, 4L60E, 4L65E or 4L70E Automatic Transmission (RPOs MD8, M30, M32, M33 or M70)

Condition

Some customers may comment that the vehicle has no movement when the transmission is shifted to DRIVE or THIRD position, but there is normal operation when it is shifted to SECOND, FIRST or REVERSE position.

Cause

This condition may be caused by a damaged forward sprag assembly (642).

Correction

When inspecting the sprag, it is important to test the sprag for proper operation by holding the outer race (644) with one hand while rotating the input sun gear (640) with the other hand. The sun gear should rotate only in the counterclockwise direction with the input sun gear facing upward. If the sprag rotates in both directions or will not rotate in either direction, the sprag elements should be inspected by removing one of the sprag assembly retaining rings (643). Refer to SI Unit Repair section for forward clutch sprag disassembly procedures.

If the sprag is found to be damaged, make repairs to the transmission as necessary. A new forward roller clutch sprag assembly is now available from GMSPO.




If clutch debris is found, it is also very important to inspect the Pressure Control (PC) solenoid valve (377) fluid screens. Clean or replace the PC solenoid (377) as necessary. It is also important to flush and flow check the transmission oil cooler using J45096. Refer to SI Automatic Transmission Oil Cooler Flushing and Flow Test for the procedure.




The notches above each sprag must point up as shown when assembled into the outer race.

Bearing Assembly, Input Sun Gear

Snap Ring, Overrun Clutch Hub Retaining

Hub, Overrun Clutch

Wear Plate, Sprag Assembly

Retainer and Race Assembly, Sprag

Forward Sprag Assembly

Retainer Rings, Sprag Assembly

Outer Race, Forward Clutch

Washer, Thrust (Input Carrier to Race)

The following information applies when this sprag is used in 1982-86 transmissions.

The new design sprag can be used on models 1982 through 1986, by replacing the entire assembly (637 - 644). Individual components are NOT interchangeable.

Important: The wear plate (640) and input thrust washer (660) are not required with the new sprag. Use of the thrust washer and wear plate with the new sprag assembly will cause a misbuild (correct end play cannot be obtained).




Parts Information

Warranty Information




For vehicles repaired under warranty, use the table.




Disclaimer

[wdudetocool]

Ordered a tranny online,i can't wait to be back on tje road

[roadtested]

LOL-I GUESS I SHOULD VE SIGNED UP FOR ALLDATA SOONER....
TECHNICAL

Bulletin No.: 08-07-30-027

Date: June 04, 2008

Subject:
No Movement When Transmission is Shifted to Drive or Third - Normal Operation When Shifted to Second, First or Reverse (Replace Forward Sprag Assembly)

Models:
1982 - 2005 GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2006 - 2007 Buick Rainier
2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT
2006 Chevrolet SSR
2006 - 2008 Chevrolet Avalanche, Colorado, Express, Silverado Classic, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer
2006 GMC Yukon Denali, Yukon Denali XL
2006 - 2008 GMC Canyon, Envoy, Savana, Sierra Classic, Sierra, Yukon, Yukon XL
2006 Pontiac GTO
2006 - 2007 HUMMER H2
2006 - 2008 HUMMER H3
2006 - 2008 Saab 9-7X

with 4L60, 4L60E, 4L65E or 4L70E Automatic Transmission (RPOs MD8, M30, M32, M33 or M70)

How did you relate this information to a dramatically different build transmission?

[Jrs3800]

Yeah I wonder that as well..as this is a snapped band not a sprag problem...

[wdudetocool]

Yeah I wonder that as well..as this is a snapped band not a sprag problem...

oh ...when i read that it was 3 am.....lol.... i was assuming it had to do with my car since it was on alldata and it only shows you info on the car you sign up with.... :dontknow

[PLAGUE PHANTOM]

You have a 4t65e. Those transmissions in the bulletin you posted are I believe rwd transmissions. This bulletin won't help you any....lol

[wdudetocool]

Some customers may comment that the vehicle has no movement when the transmission is shifted to DRIVE or THIRD position, but there is normal operation when it is shifted to SECOND, FIRST or REVERSE positio
(THATS WHAT MINE DID)

This condition may be caused by a damaged forward sprag assembly (642).
(FOR ALL I KNEW THE SPRAG COULD VE BEEN PART OF THE BAND )


SO ASSUMING THIS INFO WAS ABOUT MY CAR ITS NOT TOO FAR FETCHED TO SEE HOW I GOT TOO THAT CONCLUSION, BUT WHY I STAYED THERE WAS JUST STUPIDITY......LOL

[Jrs3800]

Wish you the best with the replacement... Make sure after you remove the trans you flush out the heat exchanger in the radiator...