knock on 93

Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's, Olds 98 91-96, Buick Lesabres and Park Avenue 91-96. Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.
Post Reply
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

I know this is a bonnie forum, but I'm having trouble with a 93 olds 3800. Heard a ticking morning start up. It went away after about 3 seconds. Four miles down the road began to run rough. Hearing a prominant tick. Possibly a muffled knock. No engine light. No smoke. Car stalled once at traffic light. Started right up. Had to drive about 4 miles home. Car still starts right up.
Rod? Wrist pin? Piston slap? Please tell me it might be something simpler or less expensive.

Bonnie_99
User avatar
willwren
Retired Admin
Retired Admin
Posts: 65489
Joined: Sun May 18, 2008 11:07 pm
Year and Trim: .
93 SSEi
95 SLE (SC)
97 Buick LeSabre
Location: Oregon WCBF'04, '05, '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11 Survivor
Contact:

Re: knock on 93

Post by willwren »

It's a little too far away from me to hear it clearly.

Let us know when you idle the car and narrow down where it's coming from and what conditions it's louder/quieter.
Image
Click here for mod list for both cars
93 SSEi, 95 SLE (supercharged) 97 Buick LeSabre Limited
PontiacDad at WCBF '04: Cruise control? That's like surrendering!
Comprehensive guide to troubleshooting, rebuilding, and modifying Eaton Superchargers
xX3800Xx
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 50
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:19 pm
Year and Trim: 1990 Lesabre
1987 Lesabre

Re: knock on 93

Post by xX3800Xx »

Check crank pulley first for rubber tearing.
Cracked Exhaust manifolds are a possibility.
Depending on miles maybe timing chain slap.
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

After further investigation it sounds like a very loud clank with a loud inconsistant squeak.. Seems to be higher up. With a stethescope on the valve cover it is more prevelant over cylinders 4 and 6 (middle and left side closest to firewall/drivers side). Atleast thats what it sounds like to my untrained ear. Speeds up with accleraton . Inconsistat though. Tap, tap....tap,tap,tap.......tap,tap. Got something dripping on the exhaust manifold (coming from cyl. 4) Can't tell exactly where it's coming from or what it is. Probably oil?. No smoke from tail pipe. Oil level, coolant level ok. Crank pulley seems ok. Hope this description helps.

Joe
Last edited by bonnie_99 on Sat May 21, 2011 4:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

P.S. Only 98k miles.
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

Any responses to above post?
2000GreySSEi
SSEi Member
SSEi Member
Posts: 199
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:47 am
Year and Trim: 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi

Re: knock on 93

Post by 2000GreySSEi »

Sound kinda like the lower end (rod bearings) noise, but not 100% sure. How is your oil pressure?

2000 SSEi 4th Pontiac!! 231,xxx Current mods: Gutted AirBox w/ K&N drop in. Cleared Corners. Future mods: 3.5 pulley, 180* tstat, hi flow cat, solid motor mounts, Red-Tinted Turn Signal Tails, Projector Headlights, Turn Signal Mirrors.

Image
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

No oil pressure guage. Here is link to a video of what my vehicle sounds like. This is not mine but, sounds exactly the same.

http://youtu.be/P2AQjAx7ZXk

Joe
1oldman
Certified Bonneville Nut
Certified Bonneville Nut
Posts: 3975
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 11:21 pm
Year and Trim: 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport
Location: Lone Star State

Re: knock on 93

Post by 1oldman »

bonnie_99 wrote:No oil pressure guage. Here is link to a video of what my vehicle sounds like. This is not mine but, sounds exactly the same.

http://youtu.be/P2AQjAx7ZXk

Joe

HOLY CHIT Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you been changing the oil? How often brand & weight? Mine just rolled over 278Kmiles and sounds a whole lot better than that. - BC
In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

Every 3k, just had it changed 2 weeks prior. 10w-30 valvoline.
1oldman
Certified Bonneville Nut
Certified Bonneville Nut
Posts: 3975
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 11:21 pm
Year and Trim: 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport
Location: Lone Star State

Re: knock on 93

Post by 1oldman »

Man, I'd be scared to drive that car sounding like that. I think there's a really good chance that 2000GreySSEi is correct. I'd really like to "hear" what willwren has to say. He, Jrs3800 and a couple others would be better able to tell you than I can. - BC
In Memory of Brad - 1/21/1977 .. 10/23/2013 ...... Aaron - 1977 .. 2017 .....
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport ..... 1992 Bonneville SSE 1SB 170 HP L27 4T60E retired/sold to MattStrike ..... 2005 Bonneville SE 1SC 205 HP L36 4T65E - retired/salvage yard ..... PBCF user 2321
bonnie_99
SLE Member
SLE Member
Posts: 36
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:53 am
Year and Trim: 99 SE
Location: Saginaw, Mi

Re: knock on 93

Post by bonnie_99 »

I haven't driven it in 3 months. I replaced it with a 99 Bonneville SE. It was suppose to be my sons car, he just got his license. I thought about replacing the motor but, I've never done that and don't have the tools or the know how. Had a couple offers to replace with used motor for about $700 with fluids but, It's 18 years old. I think I might junk it and get something else.
Post Reply