Gas mileage
Gas mileage
Well I only get about 15 miles to the gallon, so I was wondering if there was anything besides major upgrades to the engine, that I could do to improve the gas mileage in my 2000 SSEi bonnie.
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Re: Gas mileage
Is that city/highway or a mix?
You can start by staying out of the loud pedal.
AFAIK there aren't any major upgrades that you can do to the engine to get better mpg. Just do a tuneup and you should get 30mpg on the highway no problem.
Brand Suggestions are in the parentheses.
You can start by staying out of the loud pedal.
AFAIK there aren't any major upgrades that you can do to the engine to get better mpg. Just do a tuneup and you should get 30mpg on the highway no problem.
Brand Suggestions are in the parentheses.
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Re: Gas mileage
I have always been able to vary my fuel mieage between 12 mpg and 27 mpg.
So much is dependent on how heavy your throttle foot is, your average speed and how much idling you do.
So much is dependent on how heavy your throttle foot is, your average speed and how much idling you do.

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Re: Gas mileage
In my 2000 SSEI the highest gas mileage I've seen is 18.2 according the DIC. This is 80 to 90 percent short trip city driving.. IIRC last time i checked it on the aeroforce it said 13 or 14 MPG
And i'm not that heavy in the throttle, every once in a while there might be a WOT 
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Re: Gas mileage
12 and 36 mpg (US gallon), I got you beat Paul2000Silverbullet wrote:I have always been able to vary my fuel mieage between 12 mpg and 27 mpg.
Driving style and ambient temperature seem to go a long way in varying my mileage. The 12 I got was from 100% city driving in below freezing weather, lead-footed with many short trips. The 36 was a 100% highway road trip where I pussyfooted around 60mph in the summer time.
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Re: Gas mileage
I do mostly city driving save for a few trips across the city to visit family or something, I'm just trying to gauge if I'm in the average for everyone else or if i need to fix some things with the car, I'm gonna get a fuel filter and wires and the other tune up stuff this weekend, I did and oil filter and oil change and air filter change already about 2 weeks ago and saw a slight increase but it wasn't much.
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Re: Gas mileage
An oil change isn't going to increase mileage.
When oxygen sensors go bad they kill mileage.
However if you are doing mostly city driving, 15 sounds about right. Probably should be closer to 18.
When oxygen sensors go bad they kill mileage.
However if you are doing mostly city driving, 15 sounds about right. Probably should be closer to 18.
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Re: Gas mileage
Also depends on your driving style, and what modifications you have done.
With moderate mods (CAI, full exhaust, SC pulley, tuning and maybe some light porting (exhaust manifolds, SC, TB) you will suffer in town, but if your highway miles are over 70% of your mileage then it should even out or even improve overall.
With moderate mods (CAI, full exhaust, SC pulley, tuning and maybe some light porting (exhaust manifolds, SC, TB) you will suffer in town, but if your highway miles are over 70% of your mileage then it should even out or even improve overall.
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Re: Gas mileage
Around town with what I think is a fairly heavy foot, i still get 18. That's with the 3.06 gears too.
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Re: Gas mileage
Ryan, you're also N/A. Big difference.
Oil change, plugs, fuel filter won't increase fuel mileage per-say, but it will bring it back to where it should be. I heavily recommend replacing your front O2 sensor. I replaced mine this weekend and wish I'd have done it when I got the car.
Oil change, plugs, fuel filter won't increase fuel mileage per-say, but it will bring it back to where it should be. I heavily recommend replacing your front O2 sensor. I replaced mine this weekend and wish I'd have done it when I got the car.
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Re: Gas mileage
D'oh! didn't realize he was supercharged. As already mentioned, the 02 sensor is often the culprit in bad mileage, i'd look there first. After that, plugs.
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Re: Gas mileage
The best I have ever managed over a full tank of fuel and 600 km is 27 mpg but I have gone for short highway distances and seen 36 too.12 and 36 mpg (US gallon), I got you beat Paul
My biggest problem is I can't drive 55. 70 is average but lately on this wonderful Island highway it's been 100!
Miles an hour. I'm embarrassed to say the last time I was following a Vibe.

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Re: Gas mileage
15 and 39 mpg. 100% city and 100% I-95 for 600 miles on ~15.2 gallons.
Front O2 sensor will have an effect. Also, running a good fuel system cleaner like Chevron Techron Concentrate or Gumout with Regane will help.
Front O2 sensor will have an effect. Also, running a good fuel system cleaner like Chevron Techron Concentrate or Gumout with Regane will help.
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Re: Gas mileage
Thought I had a problem to, but I average 17-18 mix and Im heavy with the right foot. My best all hwy was 26ish Guess Im normal
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Re: Gas mileage
I have been averaging anywhere from 13-15 and I am N/A
I think the crappy winter gas blend has had a big affect but we'll see this summer
I think the crappy winter gas blend has had a big affect but we'll see this summer
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Re: Gas mileage
There are a number of things tied to winter that affect gas mileage. Longer warm ups, tire slippage, slower/longer city rides due to slippery conditions, etc. Even my big nubby winter tires took off about 8-10% on my hwy mileage this winter.94SilverSSEi wrote:I have been averaging anywhere from 13-15 and I am N/A
I think the crappy winter gas blend has had a big affect but we'll see this summer
With summer tires on I get about 17 city // 29 hwy @ 70-mph, and have seen 33-34 at 55 mph.
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Re: Gas mileage
Warmup time is huge. It takes ~10-12 minutes to fully warm up the coolant at 30 degrees F. That's energy that's going into the coolant, not into moving your car down the road. In 90 degree F heat my car warms up in less than 5 minutes. That's 5 more minutes of going instead of warming up the car.


