Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
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Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I Was Wondering If I Can Have The High Beams On And Also The Low Beams On With A Separate Switch... I Used A Jumper Wire From The High Beam Hot To The Low Beam Hot And They Both Come On... Is There A Easy Way To Do This Or Will Other Damage Occur... Like Burnt Wires Or Breaking Glass Due To Heat... Has Anyone Ever Thought Of This Or Have Done It??? Please Let Me Know Thanks...
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
The high and low beams both have their own circuit. Neither circuit was desiged to carry the load of both bulbs, but both circuits were designed to handle more load than its bulbs consume. I can not say for sure that the circuit will or will not handle it, that is a call you have to make on your own. If you have an amp meter, you could measure the load (amperage consumption) of each bulb and add the results. If it is less than the circuits rated capacity, then it might work. You would be running that circuit much closer to it's maximum rating though. I can say that if it does handle it, it would be by "just barely".
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
Get 4 new 9005 bulbs and see where you're at. Having 220 watts of power drawn through the stock spaghetti-thin headlight wiring and switch seems dangerous to me.
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I think willwren did this on his.

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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I thought he just did it to have the fog lights on with the high beams?J Wikoff wrote:I think willwren did this on his.
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I Have Already Done The High Beam With The Fog Light Override... (Thanks willwren) Grounding The Fog Light Relay Permanent, A One Wire Fix... Thinking I'd Use A Relay And Hot Wire From The Battery And A Switch To Power The Lows While The Highs Are On...
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
If you use a relay and seperate wiring, then yes, you can do it safely.
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
Two 14-gauge headlight relay harnesses connected to the battery should have you running like a champ. Then you won't fry the stock wiring or the headlight switch.
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I've been thinking about the Hi-Low combo since my last road trip.
If successful, could this possibly be a future tech info write up?
If successful, could this possibly be a future tech info write up?
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I Think Something Could Happen... I Live Outta City Limits Wheres There Is Livestock And Open Straight Stretches And There Are Usually No Cops So Opening It Up On The Way Home Is Fun But More Light Is A REALLY Good Thing...
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
So you want all six forward lights on at the same time? Sometimes state/local laws only allow 4 forward lights on. SO Id check with your local law enforcement before doing this, even if they arent around all the time.
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Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???) CONFIRMED!!!
Well I Figured It Out… I Have High Beams With Low Beams… It’s Really Simple… First You Pull Down The Drivers Side Hush Panel And Locate The High Beam Low Beam Switch Located On The Left Side Of The Steering Column… Then You Have 3 Wires, Yellow Is The Hot Off The Light Switch, Green Is Hot To High Beams, And Tan Is Hot To Low Beams… You Cut The Yellow And Cut The Tan Wires And Merge Them Together With A Yellow 10ga Butt Connector… Ding Done Your Lows Will Stay On As Normal And When You Cycle To The High Beams The Low Beams Will Stay On… I've Been Trying It Now For A Few Days B4 I Posted The Idea It's Works Beautifully!!! Nothing Gets Hot And No Extra Wires... Hope The Idea Gets Around… Enjoy The New Mod… Field Mouse
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
Run your car at 2000 RPM with all 4 bulbs burning for 1 hour. Let us know if the headlight switch starts on fire.
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
do the fogs pop off when brights are put on?
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
grounding the fog relay takes care of this. nothing to do with the headlamps.01bonneSC wrote:do the fogs pop off when brights are put on?
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
I've been driving around now for a few days and it has crossed my mind but after 40 minutes driving i left them on and checked the light switch and the hi lo dimmer switch and it dont get hot at all... There might be a problem else wheres but I wont know where... I probed the ground on the light socket and re grounded it and the brightness didnt change or anything... I really don't think there is gonna be a problem with it but another method might be better... It sure makes the difference driving with them... WOW... Do u guys think i'm really going to have a problem and if so wouldn't I pop a fuse or something like that before a melt down???
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)

Silver Star Lows (9006) Highs (9005) & Fogs!!! (880)
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
Just A Update!!! No melt downs yet!!! Still works like A charm!!!
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
Can you legally have 6 lights on at the same time?nunesjeff wrote:Just A Update!!! No melt downs yet!!! Still works like A charm!!!
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Re: Low Beams And High Beams (At The Same Time???)
No. But you can't legally have fogs and highs on at the same time either. I do that on both cars regardless.
Can't have fogs on legally with oncoming traffic either.
Can't have fogs on legally with oncoming traffic either.

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