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Heated seats

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:19 pm
by bonnevillain
My passenger side heated seat just makes a loud clicking noise when you press the button, and another a fraction of a second later. The LED lights up for a split second also. Is there any easy fixes this could be, or will i have to tear apart the seat?

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:23 pm
by Rusgreim
Your elements (likely the seat) are shot. You'll need to get the kit from GM and tear down the seat. It it actually very easy to do, and the kit is relatively reasonable ($80.00).

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:03 am
by Toms94
Rusgreim wrote:Your elements (likely the seat) are shot. You'll need to get the kit from GM and tear down the seat. It it actually very easy to do, and the kit is relatively reasonable ($80.00).
I have the same problem and I too have determined that I probably need the kit. My question is if I walk in to the dealer and tell them I want the "kit" will they know what I am needing or is there something more specific to ask for? Thanks in advance.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:07 am
by Archon
If you can wait a day or two, I currently have a write-up for repair under review in the gearhead section.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:01 pm
by Toms94
Archon wrote:If you can wait a day or two, I currently have a write-up for repair under review in the gearhead section.
I can wait. We are heading out of town for the T-G holiday and not taking the Bonneville. I this a repair of the grid or replacement? Thanks!

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:16 pm
by WhiteArrow3800
I'll be keeping an eye out for this as well. My drivers seat turns on for second and turns off. I don't hear any clicking sounds though.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:49 pm
by Archon
It's a repair of the wiring. I'd like a couple more views/comments in the gearhead section before I post it publicly.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:03 pm
by bonnevillain
i figured the element itself was cracked.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:25 pm
by Archon
In a way, it is. It breaks where it attaches to the supply wiring.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:16 am
by 00Beast
Is there any info on how to install the elements in non-heated seats? I really want heated seats, I like my butt warm when it's 20*F outside, LOL

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:20 am
by bonnevillain
there are aftermarket kits that some have done. they should come with some instruction.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:49 pm
by Rusgreim
I don't think an aftermarket kit will work very well in the 00-02 seats. The newer seats are different, so it may be entirely possible, but after doing mine, I realize that the aftermarket kits would interfere with the "velcro" that hold the seat profile in place.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:35 pm
by harofreak00
Exactly why I choose OEM when I did mine.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:26 pm
by Archon
This it the write-up.

The seat heaters in the 2000+ Bonnevilles often quit working after a time. When the switch is depressed, the light comes on for a second or two, and then shuts off. The most common cause for this is an open circuit in one of the seat heaters. It usually opens where the supply wires connect to the heater wires. GM sells replacement seat heaters, but they are relatively expensive, and there have been comments that they don’t get quite as warm. That’s because they are installed under the seat cover’s backing, which contains the original seat heater. This repair is fairly easy to do, and should not take longer than an hour or two. The seat does not have to be removed from the car.

This was a recent repair, so its not known how permanent of a repair it is.

Tools needed for this job are: Soldering gun, solder, solder wick, wire cutters, box cutter, hemostats or similar, and foam type weather stripping.

Start by raising the seat up to make things easier to reach. Then remove the covers for the seat switch. The round one does not need to be removed. The others just pry off. Then remove the cover attached to the seat. Slide the cover back, which should release one side of the bottom. Sliding the other direction releases the other side, then pull the bottom out, and slide the top down and off. When you’re done it should look like this.
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The seat cover is held on with clips that attach to the bottom part of the seat. The long one in the front, and one in the corner are all that have to be removed for this.
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With the seat cover pulled back, it will look something like this.
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Looking at the underside of the seat cover, there will probably be a melted spot in the cloth type mesh covering the connections.
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Peeling back that covering will reveal a burned mark in the hard fiberglass type covering that holds the wires and connections in place. This was likely used to try to keep the wires in place, and prevent them from breaking. However, it probably contributes more to the problem, instead of solving it.
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Dig into the seat cover some, until the heater wire that broke off is exposed. The rest of the wiring is still encased in the hard fiberglass type coating.
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Using some wire cutters, cut between the two wires in the coating. Looking closely at the wire on the left in the picture, the burned spot jutting out to the left side shows where the heater wire at one time was attached.
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Using the wire cutters, and a box cutter or other sharp blade, clean off the supply wire until the solder covered end is exposed.
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Solder wick was chosen for the repair, because it is flexible, and being made mostly of copper, conducts electricity well. Wrap the end of the solder wick around the supply line’s exposed soldered end. To keep the solder from wicking up the solder wick, a set of hemostats was used as a heat sink right next to the connection. This will keep the rest of the wick flexible.
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Bend the solder wick down the side of the wire, and then back over itself. This will provide a little extra strain relief. Tape the area tightly.
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To protect the connection further, push it down inside the hole in the seat cushion.
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Pull out enough of the solder wick to easily reach the heater wire. Wrap the wick around the heater wire, attach the hemostat next to the connection, and apply solder.
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To add protection, apply strips of foam weather stripping to each side of the new wiring.
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When the heater wire was dug out of the seat backing, it should have left a small hole. Push the end of the foam weather stripping containing the wires into that hole, and tape in place. GM automotive tape was used here, as it holds well. Any similar tape should do fine. It doesn’t have to look pretty, just so it holds it in place. The other end will slide partially into the hole in the seat cushion.
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Pull the seat cover back into place, using care not to stress the new connections. Put the clips back on the lower part of the seat, and replace the switch covers. It’s a little hard to see in this picture, but a slight bump may appear in the seat cover. This should soon go away.
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Re: Heated seats

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:42 pm
by 2003 SSEi
harofreak00 wrote:Exactly why I choose OEM when I did mine.
ya and the fronts from a 02+ will work in the rear nicely too :booty:

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:57 am
by a20h
nice write up going to give this a try this weekend

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:52 pm
by a20h
well i tried your fix this afternoon ripped the seat up with out any trouble thanks to your directions but when i got it open all of the elements looked fine with out any burn marks so i guess if is one of the elements in the seat back oh well it figures the great work you did on the write up looked very easy i guess now i have to try to get to the other elements in the seat back some how ](*,)

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:23 pm
by Villainville
Before I purchased my 03 SLE the drivers heated seat was broke. The light would come on for a second and then go out. The owner said that he would have the seat fixed before I bought it. He called me a day later and said it's fixed ,it was only a module. Bob.

Re: Heated seats

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:05 pm
by Archon
Now, doesn't it figure that yours would have a problem somewhere else. If it helps, this is how the wiring and heater elements are laid out. Apparently there is also a thermistor buried in there somewhere. :wink:
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Re: Heated seats

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:03 am
by 00ssei
I just got this problem on my car today. It first started when the heated seat didnt work when set on low. But on high, it would work. But today none of them work on the driver side, but the passenger is good. Im not going to be able to fix this problem by myself, I just dont have time these days and the truth have very little experience when it comes down to wiring. So does anyone here have an estimate how much it would cost to do it professionally at a shop? Thanks