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Found a 2004 Bonneville GXP online with 33k miles for $7000. Car looks like it's in really good shape inside and out. I'm not going to buy this one specifically, but I'm in the market for a new car and I like the 01 SLE that I have right now. I really like this GXP, but from what I've read online about the northstar, it's kind of scaring me. I don't what to put a *shoot* ton of expensive repairs in to it, and assuming I find another car like this, I'd like to get at least another 100k miles out of it. 80% of the miles I would be putting on it would be highway miles, what do you guys think?

The Northstar is great until it breaks on you and empties your bank account, which it seems 90% of them are prone to doing.

As our resident former GM tech Lane likes to put it, it's a 100k mile motor in its stock untouched configuration, unless you're very lucky!

I own a 2004 Bonnneville GXP, ordered it new and drove it until Feb of this year, 148,385 miles. Did not have any major issues with the Northstar. Replaced water pump, intake gaskets and mass air flow sensor. Other than those items it was issue free until someone failed to yield the right of way and totaled it for me.

OMG, I understand that you're a newbie, so please don't take this the wrong way, this question gets asked roughly once a week. If you use the search function, you'll see we've answered this "Should I get a GXP" question ad nauseum.

It is a more "complicated" engine (for GM), that is a size 10, shoved in a size 5 dress.

It likes to;
- Leak oil
- Leak coolant
- Leak trans fluid
- Tempermental ignition system as they age
- Has the starter, which will fail at some point, in a weird location (under the intake manifold/plenum)
- And some have the lingering Northstar head stud issues (I.E. overheating).

Aside from that it suffers the normal maladies plaguing any Bonneville of this generation which is generally electrical/electronic gremlins (IP issues, blend motor issues, power issues in harness under carpet), sunroof drain cloggage, steering wheel clunk, front engine mount breakage, and probably a few other I'm forgetting.

Oh yea, don't forget fog lights...

There is a whole dedicated thread in the GXP section pertaining to this. I would bet, with a highly probable statistical analysis, that if you turn on the fog lights of the GXP you're looking at, at least one of them is out.

Or both! lol

ok so I just updated my list to SLE's and SSEi's... I forgot about the northstar issues.