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ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:38 pm
by Mike 72
One more post :)
I´m having trouble with my brakes and traction too besides my brake lines...
Traction control engages almost all the time so I suppose there is something wrong with a sensor.
Both right and left hub has been changed so the fault must be something else.
Do I have to change my drive shafts?

/Mikael
1992 SSEi

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:42 pm
by wjcollier07
all 4 hubs were replaced? the back ones can cause a problem too. In order for traction control to work, it sees that the back wheels are turning slower than the front ones, and slows down the front ones. And in ABS, its the reverse, the computer sees the fronts are stopped, or going slower than the rears, and engages ABS. Unless all wheel speed sensors are working correctly, the system will fault.

Also, for the front ones, who made the replacements?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:32 pm
by Mike 72
Front hubs changed, will check who made them tomorrow.
Maybe I will need to find a shop and have the car hooked up to a computer...

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:46 am
by Mike 72
My new front hubs are made by AR-Tech, just checked that.

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:58 am
by Mike 72
How do I check my wheel speed sensors?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:40 am
by BonneMe
Are all 4 tires the same brand, model, size, and mileage?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:36 pm
by Mike 72
Yes they are the same brand and size.

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:29 pm
by Mike 72
Well then, back in the right thread.
Today I´ve checked my rear hub and it seems as my right one has rusted at the back where the speed sensor is located.
I tried to measure the output from it when turning the brake drum and I get less output from the right than the left so I hope I have found the problem.
Is it possible to have a fault like that and still no warning lights?

Next problem is getting that hub from the car, I took away the bolts but it´s really stuck.
Suggestions how to get it loose is appreciated.

If I pull the fuse and drive without ABS until I get my new hub, is there someway to turn of the warning lights without pulling the bulbs?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:00 pm
by willwren
Disconnect the large round black connector on the PMV assembly below the airbox, and leave the fuses in.

Put a small piece of black electrical tape on your dash over the lights for now.


I've never researched a home-grown technique for checking WSS's. To get a truly accurate representation, I'd expect you need an o-scope. Reading resistance would be just an average of the pulses from the sensor if it works like I think it does. I have a couple old hubs laying around, and I'm thinking it's time to cut into them and see how the mechanical side of the problem looks.

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:22 am
by Mike 72
Thanks!

The only problem is that I have to take the car to the yearly inspection we have here in Sweden and they don´t like warning lights that are on :(
Is it possible to remove the bulbs without taking the cluster out?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:17 am
by Mike 72
Didn´t pass inspection today.
They won´t let it pass with the ABS system unplugged :(

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:32 am
by freneticburn
Mike 72 wrote:Didn´t pass inspection today.
They won´t let it pass with the ABS system unplugged :(
Couldn't you just hook it back up, deal with the issues to get past inspection and then limp home or somewhere close and unplug it again? Or do the inspectors actually drive your car to check it?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:40 pm
by Mike 72
They make a test drive, unfortunately :(
So now I need to get those new rear hubs as soon as possible, but I will buy them from USA as they are really expensive here...
Any suggestions where to get them at a fair price?

Re: ABS and Traction control?

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:30 pm
by willwren
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