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I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:19 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
"Vehicle speed sensor A circuit low input" Is it a hard job? Should I take it to the dealer or should I try it myself? If you do recommend DIY then what parts do I need ? And where is it located? Thanks to anyone with any info!
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:54 pm
by CMNTMXR57
Oh boy, this one has a lot of circuit testing... Do you want to tackle this yourself? Or do you just want to know what the source of the problem is?
Basically why this one sets is because vehicle speed (as determined by the VSS) is low in comparison to engine rpm's.
As mentioned a lot of circuit testing, looking for shorts/damage to harnesses/plugs at the PCM, VSS, VSS brake switch, etc. You'll be measureing voltages at terminals on the PCM, as well as VSS resitance. You may even need to make sure you have whatever GM calls the most recent calibration.
Obviously if you have wiring harness/plug damage, that will need repair, but ultimately parts that could be suspect are the VSS itself, VSS brake switch, and in worst case scenario, PCM replacement.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:07 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
Well then, dealer it is! Thanks for the help! I'm not smart enough to even attempt this kind of procedure
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:10 pm
by CMNTMXR57
So yea, they're going to fix either one or more of the following;
- Check for most up to date PCM calibration.
If that doesn't work;
- Circuit repair
- Replace VSS brake switch
- Replaced VSS
- Replace PCM
That's what it boils down to.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:11 pm
by CMNTMXR57
Also, now that I think about it, did you have a P070x something code, related to the PRNDL? If so, sometimes this can errantly set 0502. If not, no biggie, just had that thought come up.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:23 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
No, it was only one code
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:28 pm
by CMNTMXR57
Ok, if there were two, you'd have to address the 070x code first.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:32 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
Thanks again, hope this is covered under my ext warranty
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:41 pm
by CMNTMXR57
Should be. You may have to pay a deductible.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:53 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
That shouldn't be too bad.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:20 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
-Update- the dealer said it just needs a speed sensor and it isn't covered under warranty )-; $170
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:23 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
Where is the speed sensor located at on this car?
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:25 pm
by harofreak00
Its on the differential end of the transmission.
Don't pay $170 for the sensor, they are only like $15 on RockAuto.com
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:46 pm
by CMNTMXR57
The speed sensor is the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor).
Yea, Rock Auto, or even a used one elsewhere.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:28 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
Bought one, thanks! I'll put it on Saturday when I get off from work. Any tips on how to put it on easy?
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:33 am
by CMNTMXR57
Wait, I thought you had an extended warranty? This should be covered and they should be doing it.
Anyway, you'll have to get under the car, back of the transmission, on the diff side (as mentioned), which faces the passenger side. You will see a stamped steel brace that connects betwen the transmission/transaxle and the engine (I think it bolted up to the cylinder head on the engine side).
Once this brace is removed, it should be the big sensor facing upwords on the snout. Remove the electrical pigtail, undo the retaining bolt, and twist/pull it out. Be careful not to lose the "O" ring seal that may be there.
It's all reverse to put it back in. I think the bolt to hold down the sensor itself is 89 in/lb (typical on these size/style bolts). The brace probably has a 30 - 35 lb/ft torque spec for the 3 bolts.
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:18 am
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
It's a third party warranty I got from the dealer I bought it from(a Cadillac dealer in Myrtle Beach S.C.) but appearently it isn't coverd by it. Thanks for all your help you save me a whole lot of grief !
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:07 am
by CMNTMXR57
Sorry to hear, this is one of my rants when people ask what extended warranty they should get? Only get a manufacturer backed one. This is one example why.
Not to rub salt in the wound, but had this been GMPP, it would have been fixed, sans a small deductible on your behalf, you'd have your car back, and your Saturday would be free for other things. Not that playin' with your car is a bad thing, mind you...
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:45 pm
by 05Bonnie&Clyde
Yeah, I wish I had a factory warranty. Oh well, at least I get to boost my "reśume" haha!
Re: I need help! P0502 code
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:06 pm
by CMNTMXR57
It really won't be that bad. I think the key will be getting the car up high enough to where you can get to the back of that engine/trans area comfortably.