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Fuel Sender

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:44 pm
by JBMark33
Mine has failed on a full tank. (I have driven 200 miles and it's pegged full)

I just checked RockAuto, do they not carry the fuel sender?

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:46 pm
by Mechanical Mike
I found one at napaonline.com ($139) but not RockAuto.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:30 pm
by Archon
Or, you can consider the fix that Hans posted.
http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/fo ... f=18&t=456

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:39 am
by JBMark33
Awesome I found it on gmpartsdirect.com for $33 with shipping, but is says they only take discover and visa, why not my discover card?

Is there another site that sells it?

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:23 am
by Archon
Check http://www.buy-oem-parts.com/ They have it listed, but I'm not sure on their payments policies.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:10 pm
by JBMark33
I received the part # 15824379, I had a friend order it.

Should I replace everything that's in the kit?

I know I really only need the Gray slider with two metal "fingers."

Other than what Hans has written up, are there any more hints, tips, or suggestions?

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:54 am
by JBMark33
Here's what comes with the kit.

Should I only replace the gray slider piece, or everything given?

I am leaning towards everything given.

Whole package.
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Re: Fuel Sender (HELP!!!)

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:03 pm
by JBMark33
BIG PROBLEM. I connected everything up and started the car. It ran fine, but now my gauge says empty, not registering at all. I know the float was a little more than half way up, so there seems to be an issue with the wiring. In the directions the package gave me, they said to cut the old harness off and crimp in the new one. Well, I did that and I think I might have two of the wires backwards (C & D), since the colors from the car and the colors on the new sensor are completely different colors??

A couple pictures... it was pretty rusty up top.

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Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:45 pm
by Archon
When the colors don't match up, you have to work with where the wires lead. This is the schematic for the fuel sender.

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Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:22 am
by JBMark33
Is there any chance you could post the same diagram for the fuel pump too?

both wires for the sender and the other two wires from the pump are both run through where I have to splice them together.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am
by Archon
This is what I have, but it's for the L67 with the two speed fuel pump, so yours may be different. If no one else posts it, I'll check the FSM later to see what it shows.
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Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:15 pm
by harofreak00
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Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:55 pm
by JBMark33
Thanks guys, I got the wires figured out, but apparently the whole new kit was not supposed to be installed, only the gray wiper with metal fingers.

The wires are:

On car wire harness New Harness
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A - Purple/White (sender) = Orange - A
B - Gray (pump) = Gray - B
C - Black (pump) = Purple - C
D - Black/White (sender) = Black - D

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:30 pm
by Hans
yes follow the directions in my thread and you should be set...I'm redoing it with more detail and better pictures hopefully soon since my sender in my current SSEi has the same problem..it bounces around like crazy..ordering the part today as a matter of fact...

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:49 pm
by JBMark33
So, is it an issue that the purple wires came off the white circuit board?

They popped off a little too easily when I was dissassembling the sender unit.

Can these be soldered back on?

I plan to solder those back to the circuit board and reconnect the 4 wires I had trouble translating above.

Issue 1: Solder purple wires back on

Issue 2: Solder the 4 wires back together.

And hopefully the prongs on my new gray slider piece won't get bent when I snap the new slider onto the old board IF and ONLY IF i can resolve both Issues above.

- It is beyond me why GM would make muiltiple boards the same size with different resistances.

If I can't get this to work, I might check out the junk yard to see if they have any good sending units. I got my instrument cluster off a 2003 bonneville SE/SLE with only 1,800 miles on it so I might be able to find a near-new sender if it hasn't deteriorated outside, or maybe even hopefully they have it inside. I don't know, if they want a lot for it at that point, I will probably just order the whole sender unit from RockAuto.

I Am starting to think of alternate startegies because I don't think the soldering job will work. Who knows.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:42 pm
by *B2*
I just did this exact same thing. The more gas I put in my car the lower it reads. So can I switch a few wires and fix it or do I have to swap the wiper with the contacts. I thought I was doing it the right way by changing the wiring. :roll:

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:03 am
by Archon
The varying resistance may be opposite on the the other sender...for example, it may go down, while ours goes up, or the other way around. Just switching wires will not change that.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:45 am
by *B2*
I did the job again but used the old guts with the new contact arm like Hans suggested. The plug is being re-wired back to the original configuration right now so I should be able to test it soon. BTW, I tried switching the purple and orange wires last night and Archon is right, it didn't fix anything.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:45 am
by JBMark33
Okay, yeah I won't mess with switching up the wires at all.

I have to get a new sender to get the wires from my local junk yard since I can't solder the wires back to the board.

Hopefully it's off the Bonneville with only 1,800 miles on it.

Not sure if I get the fuel pump too.

Re: Fuel Sender

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:06 pm
by JBMark33
I got it all fixed, here is the only pic I took.

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