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rocker install at intense!

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:11 am
by MadMike
so im on this little road trip, and im stopping at intense along the way, there gonna be doing the install because i do not trust myself doing this, ha.

the appointment is for tmrw, ill have lots of lovely pictures and a few videos just for you guys ;)

also, were gonna be doing a dyno tune,
cuz im really curious to know what im puttin to the wheels now, after all this.

its been almost 2 years since ive bought these parts, im tired of them sitting in my garage!

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:14 pm
by MadMike
all done, on my way over to brians to do the dyno tune.
ill have video and numbers in a couple hours

:beerchug: CHEERS

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:15 pm
by J Wikoff
Can't wait for results!

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:39 pm
by bonneville dan-o
:happy1: patiently waiting

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:23 pm
by gonzo4191
hey buddy? hows service? hit me up soon man, 847-eight48-1998

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:05 am
by MadMike
all done, back at the hotel drinkin to victory!

im uploading one of the videos now,
the first few pulls were disappointing, but it turned out, that the gas i had in the car was complete garbage, robbing me of almost 20hp. anywho..

didnt get as much power as i wanted, but i found out through todd and bob, that my exhaust is restrictive right at where the Y pipe would be, the guy who did the exhaust for me, made it a T, why im not sure, i guess it was easier, anyway, to solve this issue, ill be cutting into the T and making a manual cutout with a 2.5in pipe, and a butterfly valve, should be an inexpensive, and sound making improvement for when i want to race.

also, i have a bad leak at the EGR valve, im not sure what that will do as far as robbing hp, but im sure itll have something to do with it.

other than that.

what was accomplished today,

the 1.8 rockers, 105# valve springs, push-rods, locks, and retainers, were installed

shortly after my little stint on a back road while going to pick up the fiance, :twisted:

i drove over to brians for the tune.

got the car strapped on,
ba boom, engine starts,
dyno lock disengaged,
engine revs, good pull, car sounds great!

217whp...288tq.. :ack:
@%#$!!!

somethins wrong, ok 3.3 pulley, no good, change out for my 3.4
the car isnt liking this much boost, 12.4lbs o.0

little tweaking on brians end, another pull, boom

225whp 266tq, little tweak, and again, 224whp 278tq

ok, were gettin somewhere, but he cant advance timing past 11.5 cuz theres to much KR!
what to do! options! drive the wheels off the car till im out of gas, then fill it up with good gas, cuz the stuff i had was crap.
option two, leave it, cars not fully tuned..

OPTION ONE TAKEN
drove around for about 3 hours, ran through a half tank of gas..
refilled er at BP, with a little injector cleaner, and off to brians again.

we get there, he jumps in, does his magic, and we go off on a backroad, i hit it, and bam
car runs almost perfect, with just a blip of KR on the whole powerband.

ba boom, all done.
with timing advance,
and if the math is right,

Official numbers,
:beerchug:
239whp
293 crank
303tq
:beerchug:
thanks bob, todd, and brian :hail:

you guys helped out alot, and i learned alot as well,
=D> =D> =D>
next on the list to make the bonneville go vroom vroom,
xp1 cam? possible, heads? later on.

E85? lookin better and better every day, very good possibility for the NEAR future :twisted: >:)

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:22 am
by 1fatcat
Did you notice any difference with just the rocker install? (on your way to the tune).

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:25 am
by MadMike
yea, but i was having that boosy issue, the bypass valve wasnt closing all the way, so i wasnt getting full boost till we ripped it apart and fixed the issue, so it freed up about 7lbs of boost on top of the install, haha

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:33 am
by 1fatcat
So, no "seat of the pants" dyno on just the rockers due to the boost being corrected at the same time as rocker install?

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:38 am
by MadMike
not a ridiculous gain, but noticeable for sure, little bit of a difference in sound as well.

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:38 am
by wake
Mike you gotta bring that thing out this way one of these days :beerchug:

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:43 am
by The_Maniac
Sounds like a cool trip! I plan to doa few mods to my Monte and may be looking at Intense for a Dyno Tune (depends what deals with reputable performance shops I can find around Cleveland Ohio first)....

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:12 am
by J Wikoff
Nice numbers!

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:28 am
by MadMike
J Wikoff wrote:Nice numbers!
thanks, not what i was hoping for, but i know were the loses are, so itll be up to par soon enough

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:19 pm
by 00Beast
Should've done 1.95 rockers. That would've gotten you over the 300 CHP mark.

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:26 am
by MadMike
not a big deal, once i fix the leaky valve, and free up the exhaust, ill be right there. and come may, ill be at 300whp

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:48 pm
by 1fatcat
00Beast wrote:Should've done 1.95 rockers. That would've gotten you over the 300 CHP mark.
IDK? I think the 1.8's are already pushing the limits. You have to keep in mind the added strain on the rest of the valvetrain.

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:49 pm
by 00Beast
90% of the S2 S/C guys that have stock cam/aftermarket rockers have 1.95's from what I can tell.

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:15 pm
by MadMike
00Beast wrote:90% of the S2 S/C guys that have stock cam/aftermarket rockers have 1.95's from what I can tell.
very true, but im looking to do something different in time, not revealing anything yet, but it involves some pricey toys.
anyway, 1.9 and 1.8 is only a difference of 8-11hp so im not to worried, its not a huge difference.

on Monday,
im goin back to the muffler shop i just got back from,
and there gonna do a cutout for me,
with a solid block off plate so it wont leak when closed,
and all i gotta do to take it off at the track, is 2 15mm wrenches,
good to go for the 7-10hp fix from what im missing because of the restriction.

more on that on Monday. :beerchug:

Re: rocker install at intense!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:00 pm
by 1fatcat
00Beast wrote:90% of the S2 S/C guys that have stock cam/aftermarket rockers have 1.95's from what I can tell.
And 60% of those blow up.