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moon roof motor

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:40 pm
by Leftd90
So my motor works but I think the gears are bad. Is there a stopper on the gears, because it'll go in the vent position but when you try and get it to open up. It will try and then just lock up or grind the gears. Anybody know how hard it is to change the motor unless someone thinks its something else?

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:58 pm
by sonoma_zr2
9 times out of 10 it's the track, not the motor. They both require the headliner to come down.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:21 pm
by Red Rocket
I have the exact same problem with mine and it's the track. Mine is not lined up evenly at all so I've been having some leaking issues. Unfortunately, it's a fairly common issue.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:07 pm
by 01bonneSC
A problem I just solved was tightening the bolts that hold the glass to the track. Mine were loose, making for a lot of wind noise/rattelling and when I would go through an auto carwash the blowers at the end would lift my glass away from my car like it was gonna suck it right off. SCARY!! So the other day I noticed the that the bolts which held the glass to the track/assembly were very loose and I could push up on the glass and make it move to see some daylight out the top. NOT leaking water at all also, BTW!!! Well, nothing more than the drains can handle. Also noticed the back of the glass was sitting almost 3/8 of an inch below the roof line. SO, I lined up the glass and roof and tightened everything down. Did a quick run through a carwash and I was not longer afraid of getting sucked out the moonroof Tornado style. Now the only area I hear air coming in is where the seal on the glass is missing by the driver front corner.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:09 pm
by Karl
sonoma_zr2 wrote:9 times out of 10 it's the track, not the motor. They both require the headliner to come down.
What's the fix Travis? Is it an adjustment?

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:16 pm
by sonoma_zr2
Karl wrote:
sonoma_zr2 wrote:9 times out of 10 it's the track, not the motor. They both require the headliner to come down.
What's the fix Travis? Is it an adjustment?
If it is the track, it went out of adj because it has a bad spot. Replacing the track assembly is the only fix.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:44 pm
by kobrak
I have the same problem....ie you can hear the motor run, but the roof does not move. I dropped the headliner the other day and here is where I'm at. It seems there are 4 tubes that run into/from the motor. Two of them you can trace as they make the bend towards the front of the car, Two I cannot trace as they disappear towards the sides of the car. The two I can trace have no cable in them? I'm thinking they get cable in them once the roof is opened. It allows the cable to feed into and out of them. This leads me to believe the motor has stripped its gears. Problem will be troubleshooting the motor. Anyone have the service maual breakout to see what and how things are actually broken down? I had to button things back up for now, but I'm hoping to address the issue on another eekend:)

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:47 pm
by sonoma_zr2
that is the problem, the worm gear that runs on the "cable" is stripped and it is not a servicable part. the "cable" is actually a tight wound spring about 2 foot in length. You are correct , it is feed into the empty tube.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:29 pm
by Karl
I can imagine what a new sunroof assy will cost.... even from Ed...

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:32 pm
by sonoma_zr2
Karl wrote:I can imagine what a new sunroof assy will cost.... even from Ed...
most jy's will charge you $50, that includes the glass

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:45 pm
by Karl
00+ is hard to find in jy's though....

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:19 pm
by sonoma_zr2
Karl wrote:00+ is hard to find in jy's though....
true, but my brain snaps to 96-99 though :roll: :)

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:44 pm
by kobrak
So, am I understanding that you can't simply replace the motor? It comes as an all in one assembly?

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:47 pm
by sonoma_zr2
kobrak wrote:So, am I understanding that you can't simply replace the motor? It comes as an all in one assembly?
the motor and the track are 2 seperate units. you can replace one or the other or both. the part the strips in the track isnt part of the motor.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:47 am
by rrounds
I am having mine replaced right now. The cable broke on one side causing the glass to cock sideways and break the track on both sides. Now the good news. You can buy the tracks, cabels and side moldings that keep the tracks in place but it will cost you $1,300.00 from the dealer. I was lucky to find the whole sunroof assembly glass and all at the auto dismantlers for $175.00. It is from a 2004 Cadillac Seville. It is supposed to be a direct fit to the SSEI. They told me that the 1998 to 2004 Cadillac DeVille, Seville and Bonneville's all have the exact same sunroofs. I should get the car back from the shop tomorrow if this is the same sunroof assembly.

ROD

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:21 am
by Leftd90
Is it easy to drop the roof?

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:27 am
by Karl
rrounds wrote:I am having mine replaced right now. The cable broke on one side causing the glass to cock sideways and break the track on both sides. Now the good news. You can buy the tracks, cabels and side moldings that keep the tracks in place but it will cost you $1,300.00 from the dealer. I was lucky to find the whole sunroof assembly glass and all at the auto dismantlers for $175.00. It is from a 2004 Cadillac Seville. It is supposed to be a direct fit to the SSEI. They told me that the 1998 to 2004 Cadillac DeVille, Seville and Bonneville's all have the exact same sunroofs. I should get the car back from the shop tomorrow if this is the same sunroof assembly.

ROD
Let us know how it goes Rod...

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:57 am
by sonoma_zr2
Leftd90 wrote:Is it easy to drop the roof?
you drop the headliner, the sunroof comes out the top of the car. the whole sunroof assembly actually comes out really quick, its the headliner that is the pain in the ass.

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:24 am
by Leftd90
sonoma_zr2 wrote:
Leftd90 wrote:Is it easy to drop the roof?
you drop the headliner, the sunroof comes out the top of the car. the whole sunroof assembly actually comes out really quick, its the headliner that is the pain in the ass.
Well thats what i meant to ask, how easy it is to drop the headliner?

Re: moon roof motor

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:45 am
by Karl
sonoma_zr2 wrote:
Karl wrote:I can imagine what a new sunroof assy will cost.... even from Ed...
most jy's will charge you $50, that includes the glass
Just an FYI, Ed Morad gets $150 +shipping for a sunroof assy for an 00+