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Aftermarket HU.. *FIXED!* somehow
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:32 pm
by SAMzGXP
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:45 pm
by ddalder
From the installation guide:
"Designed for vehicles without OnStarĀ® or Premium BOSEĀ® sound systems."
Are you wiring the module directly to your speakers? If not, this is likely the problem. I'd have to have a close-up pic of the 32 pin DNL connector to see what wiring is present, but I'm willing to bet that it isn't wired to support the amp.
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:53 pm
by SAMzGXP
there are three wires joined together to the remote wire
i got three pics
the three blue wires under my finger are soldered together to be the remote wire
and this is the box...
it said works with bose or no bose

Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:12 am
by ddalder
Yeah, the wording is kinda tricky. Bose "Premium", which is what the installation guide states, usually implies an external amplifier. This however can also refer to a Class 2 amp sometimes which wouldn't apply here since the Monsoon amp is a non-Class 2 amp. A couple of questions...
What do you have the three blue wires that are tied together connected to?
Have you verified that your new head unit works in an environement outside the Bonneville?
It looks like the wiring to support the amp should be there.
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:25 am
by SAMzGXP
the three wires were connected together from PAC and never said anything on them.. since its blue and white i assumed it was the amp remote...
so i have it connected to the amp signal wire on the deck
i tested my head unit at a small speaker at work and it worked fine... but never tested it on amps to see if it works..
yet i scanned the remote signal wire coming out of the deck and it gave me 12 v.. which means it works..
i also tried connecting the remote wire in the harness to a 12v source didnt work
im really giving up on this thing already....
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:26 pm
by ddalder
When you say that you connected the remote wire in the harness to +12V, I assume you are referring to the vehicle harness? Can you be specific about which terminal this was (include the wire colour as well).
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:30 pm
by SAMzGXP
i connected the blue and white wire on that harness above to the yellow wire that also read +12V think that might help in turning the amp on
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:35 pm
by ddalder
I'm going to have to do a little more research...
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:37 pm
by SAMzGXP
ddalder wrote:I'm going to have to do a little more research...
thank you i really appreciate it..
do you have a wiring diagram of the stock harness?
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:02 pm
by swampthing
i don`t know if its the same in a gxp but i had to run a remote wire from my hu to the bose amp in the back. it is a pink wire in my 2000 with bose
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:03 pm
by SAMzGXP
really? and it worked after that?
what kinda harness did you use?
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:11 pm
by swampthing
same one, when ddadler gets back hr should be able to tell us what color wire yours has
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:50 pm
by ddalder
I'll post some info later on. The Bose amp is definitely not wired the same as the Monsoon. They are not even close to being pin for pin compatible (at the amp end).
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:53 pm
by SAMzGXP
So do you think that would fix the problem if I run another wire to start the emp?
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:58 pm
by ddalder
Based on how it's wired, there's no reason that you shouldn't be able to use the wiring already in place. It's really about how it's wired up at the HU end. Part of the problem may be that the Monsoon amp senses a radio on signal as well as uses the 14V ref line. This is what I need to dig into a little more. The Bose amp doesn't (IIRC). With vehicles that have the Bose amp, one of the inputs on the back of the HU is grounded and this is how the radio knows it's there. It then uses a different signal to turn the amp on. Monsoon amps are a little different.
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:23 pm
by SAMzGXP
why is there 3 remote wire on the harness if you don't mind me asking?
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:40 pm
by ddalder
Two of these have to do with the amp. One is related to the 14V Ref signal, one is Radio On Signal and the last is the antenna module enable. Our cars have an antenna module that is part of the Diversity Antenna system and needs to be enabled when the radio portion of the HU is active.
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:39 am
by SAMzGXP
so if i wanna run a 12v wire to the amp like swampthing did any idea which one is that?
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:13 am
by ddalder
How about I check this out a little more first

He has a different amp. The computer all my technical documentation is on a different computer. As soon as I can get to it, I'll look over the diagrams. Believe me, I understand your frustration and drive to get this done.
Re: Aftermarket HU.. FAIL! again
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:17 am
by SAMzGXP
lol thanks man i owe you big time...
if i move to calgary i owe you wings or something lol