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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Does anyone know if the 92-99 Front control arms are the same? It turns out there is a roughly 3-4" hole in my driver side control arm...
* According to rockauto it looks like they are the same...

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2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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I've never swapped parts, but they should be.

Starting to look like you need a full donor subframe/suspension.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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I really wish you wouldn't have said that... Most of the wear items in the suspension I have replacements for. I am really hoping that the subframe drop goes better than most of the other stuff on the car, but I have a feeling that it was dropped for the transmission rebuild about 3 years ago. Although I wish i knew this before I cut the control arms apart on the SLE parts car.
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2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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You can use all of your new parts on the donor subframe. The only parts that won't interchange are the components of the struts. As long as you swap a complete strut then it won't be an issue. If you need new springs, mounting components, they have to match the struts you have. Brakes stay with the knuckle as well.
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'99 Montana - top swap 3800
'04 Sierra 2500HD - LLY Duramax

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Something cool, trust me.

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'87 LeSabre T-type
'67 LeSabre

Gone to greener pastures:
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Any progress to speak of on this rebuild?
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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I'm sad to admit it but I haven't really had much progress over the past few months due to personal issues. For those who saw me during the Bonneville Meet last summer, It was a bit of a calm before the storm. A couple of months later with the gentle nudging of a couple of my friends, I gained the strength to go deal with the issues that i had been facing. The worst part for me has been that the car was the main victim of my issues, due to the fact that the story that makes the car important to me also has roots in the issues that brought me to that point.

I appreciate that there are still people still paying attention to this even though i have been very sporadic with my updates, but there shall be many updates to come soon!

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2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Yea I hadn't seen any updates in awhile so figured if check up on it since no updates doesn't always mean no progress. But you always need to put yourself first and I'm glad to hear you're successfully addressing some personal issues. I'll stay tuned and hopefully you can get back to making some progress soon. Take care of yourself first though! I find the working by myself in the garage to be good therapy but everyone is different. -Nick
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'99 Olds Alero GX Coupe the get me by beater- sold
'03 Bonneville SSEi 'Gina' Feb. '16 COTM | 35% tint | smoked tail lights | boat roller mount | carbon fiber accents | Silverline exhaust tips
Ziebart rust protection & undercoating | CompuStar Accustart | LED interior lighting
Intense shift kit | Intense FWI | 3" ZZP downpipe | RDI headers | 3.4 MPS | Autolite 104s | 180 deg t-stat | custom tune | ZZP high flow fuel filter | alum coolant elbows and LIM gaskets | much more to come…hopefully

'15 Buick Regal 2.0 Turbo AWD 259 HP | 10k miles | 2-way remote start | undercoating and window tint to come
'98 GMC Sierra SLE Z71 4x4 | 112k miles | S&B intake | garage ornament | more to come
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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I just need to get some pictures together, but there has been a bit of progress over the past few months. The front end is 95% together and the last part of the front may be rigged for 1 drive. There has been a couple of developments that should start taking the project where I have wanted it to go.
1990 Oldsmobile 88 Royale: The Phoenix
Mods: F41 Swap, Delco II Swap, Full Debadge, Series II (L36) Swap, More to come.
2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
1999 Pontiac Bonneville SE: The Organ Donor
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Good to hear that there has been progress. Any chance you're going to make it to the meet this year?
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'05 STS - V8, AWD, her DD
'92 Trofeo - Fair weather DD
'99 Montana - top swap 3800
'04 Sierra 2500HD - LLY Duramax

Current project:
Something cool, trust me.

Upcoming projects:
'92 Bonneville SSE
'87 LeSabre T-type
'67 LeSabre

Gone to greener pastures:
'84 Sierra Classic - Twin turbo 3800
'97 LeSabre - Top swap

RIP:
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'93 SE - L67
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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That's my goal, the new gas tank is going in if the straps quit fighting.
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2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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All the aftermarket straps are too short, and not bent quite right either, at least with all the H-body stuff I have done so far. You'll want to get longer bolts (fully threaded of course) to help with that, and probably need new caged nuts if they are rusty.
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'05 STS - V8, AWD, her DD
'92 Trofeo - Fair weather DD
'99 Montana - top swap 3800
'04 Sierra 2500HD - LLY Duramax

Current project:
Something cool, trust me.

Upcoming projects:
'92 Bonneville SSE
'87 LeSabre T-type
'67 LeSabre

Gone to greener pastures:
'84 Sierra Classic - Twin turbo 3800
'97 LeSabre - Top swap

RIP:
'86 LeSabre - pictures
'93 SE - L67
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Would be really great to see it at the meet this year!
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'03 Bonneville SSEi 'Gina' Feb. '16 COTM | 35% tint | smoked tail lights | boat roller mount | carbon fiber accents | Silverline exhaust tips
Ziebart rust protection & undercoating | CompuStar Accustart | LED interior lighting
Intense shift kit | Intense FWI | 3" ZZP downpipe | RDI headers | 3.4 MPS | Autolite 104s | 180 deg t-stat | custom tune | ZZP high flow fuel filter | alum coolant elbows and LIM gaskets | much more to come…hopefully

'15 Buick Regal 2.0 Turbo AWD 259 HP | 10k miles | 2-way remote start | undercoating and window tint to come
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Matt - the caged nuts failed.. They had to be cut out.
Nick - this may be the cars only trip out this year. There is finally a series 2 swap in the works. (not an l67 though)
1990 Oldsmobile 88 Royale: The Phoenix
Mods: F41 Swap, Delco II Swap, Full Debadge, Series II (L36) Swap, More to come.
2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Matt - the caged nuts failed.. They had to be cut out.
Nick - this may be the cars only trip out this year. There is finally a series 2 swap in the works. (not an l67 though)
1990 Oldsmobile 88 Royale: The Phoenix
Mods: F41 Swap, Delco II Swap, Full Debadge, Series II (L36) Swap, More to come.
2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
1999 Pontiac Bonneville SE: The Organ Donor
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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If its not an L67 hopefully there are plans for a turbo. A series II swap doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort unless there's forced induction of some sort involved.
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'99 Olds Alero GX Coupe the get me by beater- sold
'03 Bonneville SSEi 'Gina' Feb. '16 COTM | 35% tint | smoked tail lights | boat roller mount | carbon fiber accents | Silverline exhaust tips
Ziebart rust protection & undercoating | CompuStar Accustart | LED interior lighting
Intense shift kit | Intense FWI | 3" ZZP downpipe | RDI headers | 3.4 MPS | Autolite 104s | 180 deg t-stat | custom tune | ZZP high flow fuel filter | alum coolant elbows and LIM gaskets | much more to come…hopefully

'15 Buick Regal 2.0 Turbo AWD 259 HP | 10k miles | 2-way remote start | undercoating and window tint to come
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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looks like a fun project!
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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First things first lol, get it running then eventually a turbo and moar power!
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2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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Now you're talking!
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'99 Olds Alero GX Coupe the get me by beater- sold
'03 Bonneville SSEi 'Gina' Feb. '16 COTM | 35% tint | smoked tail lights | boat roller mount | carbon fiber accents | Silverline exhaust tips
Ziebart rust protection & undercoating | CompuStar Accustart | LED interior lighting
Intense shift kit | Intense FWI | 3" ZZP downpipe | RDI headers | 3.4 MPS | Autolite 104s | 180 deg t-stat | custom tune | ZZP high flow fuel filter | alum coolant elbows and LIM gaskets | much more to come…hopefully

'15 Buick Regal 2.0 Turbo AWD 259 HP | 10k miles | 2-way remote start | undercoating and window tint to come
'98 GMC Sierra SLE Z71 4x4 | 112k miles | S&B intake | garage ornament | more to come
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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It's always been part of my plans. I just don't want to snap motor mounts or transmissions..
1990 Oldsmobile 88 Royale: The Phoenix
Mods: F41 Swap, Delco II Swap, Full Debadge, Series II (L36) Swap, More to come.
2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
1999 Pontiac Bonneville SE: The Organ Donor
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Re: Project: LeSabre Rebuild

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I'm just trying to figure out imgur. I'll probably drop a few more pictures before in done.
1990 Oldsmobile 88 Royale: The Phoenix
Mods: F41 Swap, Delco II Swap, Full Debadge, Series II (L36) Swap, More to come.
2008 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab W/T: The War Horse
Mods: Tonneau, Partial Debadge, K2xx Alloy Rims, AFM Hardware Delete, TSP Cam, BBP tune.
1999 Pontiac Bonneville SE: The Organ Donor
1990 Buick Lesabre Custom: Cancer Victim
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