CAI vs. FWI
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
K&N has a reputation for performance. Their filter is widely regarded as the benchmark all other filters are compared to.
They do not hold water.
Spectre filters hold water for quite some time. That means they flow less per given surface area. And most are smaller to begin with than what most of us use. Not only that, but with the tighter 'weave', the plug up sooner and flow even less in a shorter period of time.
They do not hold water.
Spectre filters hold water for quite some time. That means they flow less per given surface area. And most are smaller to begin with than what most of us use. Not only that, but with the tighter 'weave', the plug up sooner and flow even less in a shorter period of time.

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
well, i ordered a new K&N filter, but im keeping the stock piece because i realized, that the adapter i made out of a piece of smooth plastic tubing, fits the entire inside of the "accordion" 
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247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
Mike, plastic is a very poor choice for intake materials. After all the work you've done, you could have just installed a real FWI from INTENSE.
Plastic heatsoaks easily, especially right above the crossover as yours is. Different plastics also vary greatly in their melt point or SOFTENING point, which is typically far lower than the meltpoint. That being the case, right above your crossover, I gaurantee during the summer, that piece of plastic will be exposed to brutal temperatures in excess of 200 degrees, especially when stopped at a light or in traffic.
If it's installed like I think it is, it'll collapse and allow unfiltered air to leak in. HOT unfiltered air.
Plastic heatsoaks easily, especially right above the crossover as yours is. Different plastics also vary greatly in their melt point or SOFTENING point, which is typically far lower than the meltpoint. That being the case, right above your crossover, I gaurantee during the summer, that piece of plastic will be exposed to brutal temperatures in excess of 200 degrees, especially when stopped at a light or in traffic.
If it's installed like I think it is, it'll collapse and allow unfiltered air to leak in. HOT unfiltered air.

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
HERES WHERE I GOTCHA! lol
i used a piece of heat resistant *chimney ballast tube(up to 500*)
im not a dumby, i knew what top use, and i dun used it
*idk what the @$%# a chimney ballast tube is either
i got it from ace hardware, and it says its used in extreme temp.
guess i should've mentioned what kind of plastic it was
i used a piece of heat resistant *chimney ballast tube(up to 500*)
im not a dumby, i knew what top use, and i dun used it
*idk what the @$%# a chimney ballast tube is either
i got it from ace hardware, and it says its used in extreme temp.
guess i should've mentioned what kind of plastic it was
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247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
That doesn't get around the fact that plastic absorbs heat easily.
Mike, Get some aluminum tubing in there instead.
Mike, Get some aluminum tubing in there instead.

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
You'll get there. You just took the project on AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE!

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
willwren wrote:AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE!
whys that? cuz its summer?
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
I just got a fwi from JMB. Came with a K&N. Very happy with it so far.
Kinda upset it didn't come with a pcm holder like Intense though...
http://jmbperformance.com/store/product ... ucts_id=86
Kinda upset it didn't come with a pcm holder like Intense though...
http://jmbperformance.com/store/product ... ucts_id=86

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
No, during a massive forum move.MadMike wrote:willwren wrote:AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE!
whys that? cuz its summer?

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
do i get to do any of the work? lolwillwren wrote:No, during a massive forum move.MadMike wrote:willwren wrote:AT THE WORST TIME POSSIBLE!
whys that? cuz its summer?People are still settling in, and there's a ton of work still going on behind the scenes.
i think its the perfect time for a project!
like remapping your pcm on the side of I-90 for tits and giggles
so, on a side note, im garaging my car for a while, my breaks are now the loudest thing on the car
(DISCLAIMER) its been almost two years since i changed them, i think they've lasted long enough
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.
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Re: CAI vs. FWI
Start a new topic on the brakes. If you want OEM, put it in the 00-05 section. If you're looking for a bit more, post a new topic here.
We'll keep 'em split that way. So people can search on the two topics later.
We'll keep 'em split that way. So people can search on the two topics later.

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Re: CAI vs. FWI
all fixed!
replaced the generic POS filter with a K&N
Part # RE-0950
and the plastic piece is now a piece of 3.875 outside diameter aluminum tubing
custom milled to meet my specifications by a good buddy
it fits perfectly inside the "accordion" so its a smooth ride through the whole intake
replaced the generic POS filter with a K&N
Part # RE-0950
and the plastic piece is now a piece of 3.875 outside diameter aluminum tubing
custom milled to meet my specifications by a good buddy
it fits perfectly inside the "accordion" so its a smooth ride through the whole intake
Miles: 80k - Color: Maroon - Rims: aSa sport CD - Tint: 5% ^-^ - cleared fronts - ebay blue high/lowbeams - custom amber turn signals
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
247whp301chp321tq - 3.4 MPS - Brian Tuned PCM - FWI w/ 9" K&N - 3/4" TB spacer - Alternator Voltage booster w/ 8ga running wire - SLP Headers/DP - HF Magnaflow Cat - Custom 2.5" Exhaust w/dump cutout - Magnaflow mufflers - 103AL@55 - Beldon Wires - MSD ignition - 1.8 Yella Terra roller rockers - 105# valve springs - custom push rods - locks - retainers - Meisure electric water pump - shift kit - false knock kit -
harofreak00 wrote:If you can't afford the fuel for a premium sucking car, you shouldn't be driving it. Sell it for an N/A.

