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Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:06 pm
by sepenator
the one posted isn't for 2000 bonnies, unless i'm missing something

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:29 pm
by Bugsi
sepenator wrote:the one posted isn't for 2000 bonnies, unless i'm missing something
You might be right, I'm looking into what is available, if anything.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:48 pm
by sepenator
thanks, I appreciate all of your responses and help!

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:22 pm
by sepenator
I just got an email from sonic and I found the right harness, now to go to the stereo shop and see if they have it and will do an exchange for me! Thanks again to you guys for all your help!

P.S. what are the RCA cables for on this harness?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_129 ... OS-09.html

Will I need to buy more RCA cable and run them to the bose amp?

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:23 am
by SAMzGXP
hey dude...
i didnt read this whole thread...
but i had the same problem as yours.. and the harnesses made by PAC and Metra are wired for bose i think.. Monsoon is different (i even doubt its gonnna work for bose if thats what you;re running)

this is my install.. took me like a month to figure this out...
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11842&hilit=install

i can help you with this install if you need more info PM me.

Samz

Edited: what do you have? Bose or Monsoon?
and no you will not need any extra RCA.. the GMOS-09 is enough
yet.. the GMOS-09 might not work.. you will have to cut one of the wires

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:39 am
by myfirstbonnie
2000 SSEi he will have the Bose system.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:49 am
by SAMzGXP
myfirstbonnie wrote:2000 SSEi he will have the Bose system.
never played with the bose one
but im 110% sure its the same problem...
PAC and Metra have Pins A3, A6 and B3 all joined together..


thanks to Darcy (ddalder) i have this info
here’s the information on the radio DNL connector (w/ RPO UZ8 – Monsoon). This should apply from 2002-05.

A1 – PPL – Class 2 Serial Data (Primary)
A2 – PPL – Class 2 Serial Data (Primary)
A3 – PNK – 14V Reference
A4 – RED – FM Composite Signal
A5 – Not Used
A6 – PNK – Radio On Signal
A7 – LT BLU/BLK – Cellular Telephone Voice Low Reference
A8 – DK BLU – Cellular Telephone Voice Signal
A9 – BLK/WHT – Audio Common
A10 – BRN/WHT – Left Audio Signal (+), S-Band Receiver and/or CDX
A11 – DK GRN/WHT – Right Audio Signal (+), S-Band Receiver and/or CDX
A12 – BRN/WHT – LR Low Level Audio Signal (+)
A13 – BRN – LR Low Level Audio Signal (-)
A14 – LT GRN – RF Low Level Audio Signal (-)
A15 – LT GRN/BLK – RF Low Level Audio Signal (+)
A16 – BLK/WHT – Ground
B1 – ORN – Battery Positive Voltage (Live at all times)
B2 – ORN – Battery Positive Voltage (Live at all times)
B3 – WHT – Antenna Enable Signal
B4 – YEL – Backlight Lamps Control
B5 – BLK – Ground
B6 – PPL – Amplifier Present Signal
B7 – Not Used
B8 – Not Used
B9 – Not Used
B10 – Not Used
B11 – Bare – Ground (Audio Drain Wire)
B12 – TAN – LF Low Level Audio Signal (+)
B13 – DK GRN – LF Low Level Audio Signal (-)
B14 – BLK – RR Low Level Audio Signal (-)
B15 – DK BLU – RR Low Level Audio Signal (+)
B16 – BLK/WHT – Ground



i know they are not all the same...

but throwing 12V on pin A6 kinda shut/mutes the amp for some reason (on monsoon)
im pretty sure if he cuts the wire off the pac/metra harness itll work

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:13 am
by sepenator
I have a Bose, so either way will I need a GMOS-09?, that's what sonic told me to get.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:10 pm
by SAMzGXP
yes GMOS-09 is needed for sure... and its alot better than the PAC GM32R, ii tried both of them

buy the GMOS-09 its for the bonnevilles with Bose sound system, if it doesnt work as plug and play, then cut that wure and plug and pray :P

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:18 pm
by swampthing
you have to hook up the amplifier turn on wire from the HU to the pink (i think) wire going into the bose amp, it will NEVER turn on the amp until you do, I simply ran the extra wire back to the trunk and hooked it up.

I do not have experience with the GMOS-09 I have the PAC C2R-GM32R

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:22 pm
by SAMzGXP
swampthing wrote:you have to hook up the amplifier turn on wire from the HU to the pink (i think) wire going into the bose amp, it will NEVER turn on the amp until you do, I simply ran the extra wire back to the trunk and hooked it up.

I do not have experience with the GMOS-09 I have the PAC C2R-GM32R
why run an extra wire though? that was is connected to the dock n lock harness...

i have a monsoon amp (i know they are not the same but similar in a way), the pac and metra harness do have a remote wire but needs a little modification

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:52 pm
by swampthing
when i did mine with the pac harness it didn't have a remote wire hookup. I followed a write up on the old bonneville club to make it work, there could be newer knowledge since I installed mine. I just know how I made mine work and that it works flawlessly.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:56 pm
by SAMzGXP
swampthing wrote:when i did mine with the pac harness it didn't have a remote wire hookup. I followed a write up on the old bonneville club to make it work, there could be newer knowledge since I installed mine. I just know how I made mine work and that it works flawlessly.
PAC C2R-GM32R
?

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:52 am
by sepenator
Ok, I got the GMOS-09, the wiring seems to fit together nicely... but I can't figured out which wire is the remote wire for the amp from my HU, I have a blue/white, and a blue wire, the instruction manual doesn't say which is which, so some help? please

P.S. The wires came wrapped in stickers, the blue/white one said "P.Cont" and the blue one said "Ant. Cont."

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:06 am
by swampthing
according to kenwoods website you want to use the blue/white wire, the blue one is not supposed to be used


http://kenwoodusa.com/UserFiles/File/Un ... cmp242.pdf

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:57 am
by SAMzGXP
Usually Blue/white is remote wire
Blue wire power antenna

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:38 am
by sepenator
Well i got everything working, now I have to cut the dash cavity to fit the HU and make sure all the connections are good, and I realized how sound proof and solid my car is too... I barely heard or saw the bass in my trunk while standing outside of the car.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:15 pm
by SAMzGXP
sepenator wrote:Well i got everything working, now I have to cut the dash cavity to fit the HU and make sure all the connections are good, and I realized how sound proof and solid my car is too... I barely heard or saw the bass in my trunk while standing outside of the car.
how did you get it working? GMOS-09?
if so was it just plug and play?

and yes bonnies are good when it comes to sound, i can barely hear my 750 RMS sub outside my car.. its kinda shocking lol

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:11 pm
by sepenator
Honestly, I couldn't tell you, cuz I brought it to the local stereo shop and they rigged it up for me... any tips on how to get it all to fit in the dash? like where to stuff the black box and the cables and things like that.

Re: Can somebody please help with this headache of an install??

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:08 am
by SAMzGXP
if you can ask that would be great, lots of members have hard time getting their aftermarket toys to work when they have a factory amplified system.. it could help someone later

as for the dash
this is my install

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