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6000K Low Beam
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The 5000k fogs are almost perfectly white, although they do look blue in the pictures. The low beams have a blue hint, but again nothing like the pictures show

Nice. I bet with HID fogs, you won't be replacing those *dang* bulbs every week like the H3's.

I gotta figure out what I want to do with the fog lights on the "V". With the 6k HID low's, the fogs look orange by comparison. Bad enough to where the Wife even called it out as looking stupid.

I really don't want to spend on a HID kit for them, so I will just stick with Halogen bulbs. Do I want a 6k equivalent? Or do I go full on yellow fog 2,300k or something similar?

CMNTMXR57 wrote:I gotta figure out what I want to do with the fog lights on the "V". With the 6k HID low's, the fogs look orange by comparison. Bad enough to where the Wife even called it out as looking stupid.

I really don't want to spend on a HID kit for them, so I will just stick with Halogen bulbs. Do I want a 6k equivalent? Or do I go full on yellow fog 2,300k or something similar?

IMHO it depends if you want performance or appearance; color temperature and glare are proportional to one another. I prefer that 2.5-3.0 K* range as I deal with fog often.

I want a blend. I want the most kelvin I can get, before lumen output trails off. I don't deal with fog much, but it would be nice on a snowy/dreary/rainy day to have actual "fog" lights, not driving lights.

Depends on whether you want to run fogs on all the time, or only when it's foggy/rainy/dreary. First option, 6000k. Second option, 3000k.

I have them on all the time (well, at night or conditions are right).

Not the worlds greatest pics, but...

CMNTMXR57 wrote:Nice. I bet with HID fogs, you won't be replacing those *dang* bulbs every week like the H3's.

I gotta figure out what I want to do with the fog lights on the "V". With the 6k HID low's, the fogs look orange by comparison. Bad enough to where the Wife even called it out as looking stupid.

I really don't want to spend on a HID kit for them, so I will just stick with Halogen bulbs. Do I want a 6k equivalent? Or do I go full on yellow fog 2,300k or something similar?

I would go in the 4000k to 5000k range. After 5000k the light is tinted a bit blue and you lose light output. 5000k is white, 4000k will have a slight white/yellow tint. Order from DDM tuning and you can have the HID kit for around $30. Probably is well worth it!

These lights are all 4000k, keep in mind cameras make these lights look more blue than they are!

The fogs are virtually useless on this car, so performance isn't as paramount. If I have 6k D1S in the regular lights, I want 6k in the fogs to match them. Otherwise, I'll go completely 2,300k yellow and totally offset the low beams.

I guess the fogs don't look too useless in the pictures you put up... but if you don't use them... leave them off and save $$$ lol... If its just color you want find some bulbs that are colored and your still going to have $20 or more into it, so thats why I would say HIDs would be best...

They're virtually useless when compared to those on the GXP (despite my disdain for the idiot at GM who engineered them), or those on my GTO (which I've got HIR bulbs in). They do add a little bit of extra frontal lighting, but are more for appearance sake, and as I mentioned, I have them on all the time. So they get used.

HIDs for fogs, $35.
3M double sided tape, $7.
Never changing the fog bulbs again.... Priceless...

2 months with HID fogs, have them on all the time and so far so good! Only complaint is that sometimes they do not fire when power goes to them, which requires a reboot and then good to go. Overall, good investment.

I Did not read this whole thread but I've only had my car for a little over 4 weeks and I've already replaced the left fog light bulb twice and I just noticed its out again, GEEZ

You will soon learn to hate the engineer who designed this light setup. If and when I ever find him, I'm gonna find the tallest tree in the land... You know the rest...

Leave the dust/moisture cover off the back, it will allow the heat from the light housing to escape and add a little bit of life between burn-outs.

The first time I change the fog lights took me forever to figure it out. I decided to take off the inner wheel well now I can change them in about 15 minutes but it still sucks to do one-handed though. LOL not that I only have one hand but it is so far back inside the bumper I can only stick one arm in there

The easiest is to take the headlight out. Two 10mm bolts (on is longer than the other, so be mindful of that), then you can just reach down. Still one handed, but...

After my 3rd set of standards went out going to do the HID...found this kit am I missing anything...tried to find what others have used but alot of dead links

http://www.ebay.com/itm/55W-H3-HID-Conv ... 5d&vxp=mtr

Not sure if I would recommend 55W, you're going to be stretching the limits of a projector meant for lower lumen halogen bulbs, and will most likely have glare issues. A 35W H3 HID kit will already be pretty bright and glare won't be an issue.

Also can't be sure of the longevity and quality of those generic ballasts. How often will you be running your fogs? I run mine only in inclement weather and so far my middle-of-the-road DDM ballasts have been holding up. If you will be running them all the time, I would suggest going to a heavier duty and higher quality bulb/ballast setup, like the Morimoto 3Five. You won't need the CAN-bus harness for fog lights.

repinS wrote:Not sure if I would recommend 55W, you're going to be stretching the limits of a projector meant for lower lumen halogen bulbs, and will most likely have glare issues. A 35W H3 HID kit will already be pretty bright and glare won't be an issue.

Also can't be sure of the longevity and quality of those generic ballasts. How often will you be running your fogs? I run mine only in inclement weather and so far my middle-of-the-road DDM ballasts have been holding up. If you will be running them all the time, I would suggest going to a heavier duty and higher quality bulb/ballast setup, like the Morimoto 3Five. You won't need the CAN-bus harness for fog lights.

Great advice I only run mine at night...so kit makes more sense then..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230903879379?ss ... 1438.l2649

For the price of those lights, you could just as well buy from DDM and know your getting a good product. I think there kits start at $45, but are regularly on sale. Looks like the slim ballast model is $30 right now. I've heard more bad things than good about these ebay kits. Not saying all ebay kits are bad, but I know of a bunch of people on several forums that have had great luck with DDM. I leave my fogs on all the time, 35w kit at 5000k and they have been good. I have 6000k in for low beams. ^ Pics at the top of the page.

I just purchased the HID's from DDM Tuning. The fogs were 55$ that included the 55w h3 5000k with harness and low beams 30$ 9006 35w 5000k. I hope they are an easy install cuz time is not something u have much of these days and I'm tired of replacing fog lights. Thanks for the helpful info.