ABS and Brake light on issue

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ABS and Brake light on issue

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My ABS is not functional with the ABS/Brake light on all the time and a HUD message to check gauges on my 02' SSEI...The traction control switch does not work either now.. The car drives perfect with good brakes but how does one fix this issue? No codes stored in the PCM ..
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You need a scan tool that can read chassis codes. Most like a bad wheel speed sensor or bad EBCM.
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Re: ABS and Brake light on issue

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I had the wheel speed sensors checked..no issue there found.. ? Is this a common issue to have a bad EBCM? How is it rectified? Who does the repair of a bad EBCM?
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Whoever "checked" the wheel speed sensors would have been able to tell you what chassis codes there are. C1214 is a bad EBCM, it is pretty common. You simply replace the EBCM, bolt on computer module. It's all a big guessing game until you know the actual code(s).
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Re: ABS and Brake light on issue

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Yes, the guy that scanned it said he couldn't do anything for it because the Control module is bad . He thought that if one is purchased, it has to be programmed etc.. Can these be rebuilt or exchanged? Is it hard to remove and install?
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It would still give out codes even if it had a C1214 (internal relay failed). If he was unable to communicate with the EBCM, you need to check power and grounds first to make sure the module is able to power up.

Used ones are plug and play, only new ones (no longer available) would need to be programmed. It's pretty easy to swap out through the driver wheel well, 6-T20 torque screws
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Re: ABS and Brake light on issue

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Where does one find and purchase a good, working, used EBCM? What is typical cost for one?
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I have them available. You have to match the 2-digit code on the label, example: EE, ER, LL, DD, TR, etc

PM me if you're interested
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