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My son who has had his license for 4 months decided to give
me a gift yesterday.
Kids make your life so much fun. Why didn't I have six of them?
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Black 95 SSEi (original owner) 238K miles
Black 05 GXP (some idiot put the first 12K on it)186K miles
Black 04 Tahoe (original owner)310K miles
Black 16 Traverse (original owner)90K miles
Black 15 Lacrosse (some nice lady put first 15K on it)43K miles
"You can have one in any color as long as it's black" - H. Ford
Did he keep the receipt? I'd take it back or exchange it if I were you...
~Randall~
1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place
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Jacob, Dark Green 1997 SSEi "The Green Lantern" Over 268,000 Miles and Still Going Strong!
Mods/Stuff: INTENSE! FWI, ScanGauge 2, Mobil 1 HM Oil, Valvoline HM Transmission Fluid, Mildly Tuned PCM, Drilled 180 Thermostat, Cleared Corners, Silverstars, Chrome T-Stars, NGK Iridium Plugs, NAPA Belden Wires.
Of course he ran into the back of an Acura MDX so
that will be a nice large insurance claim. The lady
demanded a rent-a-car even though hers was drivable.
The only other personal insurance claim I have ever made
was hail damage to the SSEi about 10 years ago. Otherwise
my wife and I have had nothing home or auto in 25 years.
With two teenage drivers my rates will probably now go crazy high.
Black 95 SSEi (original owner) 238K miles
Black 05 GXP (some idiot put the first 12K on it)186K miles
Black 04 Tahoe (original owner)310K miles
Black 16 Traverse (original owner)90K miles
Black 15 Lacrosse (some nice lady put first 15K on it)43K miles
"You can have one in any color as long as it's black" - H. Ford
I sure hope you do this yourself. I'll bet the insurance will total it if they can, and that would be a shame! - BC
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Sorry to both hear about and see this. As far as the insurance goes, every agent I've ever spoken to has said that a property claim is a property claim, amount really is of no consequence. When I say this I mean that whether he hit a bus bench and the municipality made a claim for damage or a high-end Mercedes the final dollar value doesn't factor in to determining a new rate or risk category. This just makes it much more difficult to settle outside of insurance... which insurers also really dislike.
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Carbon Fibre Appearance Interior Trim, Highly Modified Main Body Harness, Instrument Panel, Door, Door Panel & Headliner
Wiring Harnesses, Custom Fuse Box & Tire and Loading Information Decals, Additional Acoustic Insulation[/size][/color]
Working insurance claims, I suspect there may be a threshold before a claim causes a surcharge, but if there is, it's less than $1000 from what I can tell, which doesn't apply here.
It also sounds like the boys may not be listed on the insurance policy, which will likely have to change, assuming the insurance company doesn't want to try and bail out of it. Insurance is going to kill you now, between adding them on, and one of them having an at fault accident.
Sorry bud, reminds me of when I was 18. I was paying more for state minimum liability then (in 2005 dollars) than I am paying for full coverage now with 2 cars (even in 2015 dollars). I never had any marks on my driving record either.
~Randall~
1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place
And that's why my kids all got to drive a 63 Starchief for the first year (at least) behind the wheel. After kid #1 crinkled the whole right side of the 'Chief it was no longer worth restoring (our original plan), so it became the learning tank. When the heater core went out on it for kid #3, I let her drive our 93 SSE to school and she gave me a present similar to the one your son gave you. Only she nailed the car in front of her, knocked it into the car in front of him, got tagged in the rear from the car behind, and set off all the air bags. 30 MPH wreck and she totaled 2 cars in it - mine and the car she hit.
So, yeah, I know what you're feeling right now.
gweg_b wrote:People think I'm nuts, but Matt proved it.
Insurance called and stated it was a total loss. Estimated damage is $7800.
I am checking into buying it back from them, but I haven't seen under
the hood to see how bad everything is. I know the radiator/condenser
is smashed in and probably toast.
I'm not sure if I want to mess with this or not. I'll go by the shop
and do some more digging into it's condition, meanwhile, any advice
as to how difficult or expensive it might be to get it rolling again
would be appreciated.
Black 95 SSEi (original owner) 238K miles
Black 05 GXP (some idiot put the first 12K on it)186K miles
Black 04 Tahoe (original owner)310K miles
Black 16 Traverse (original owner)90K miles
Black 15 Lacrosse (some nice lady put first 15K on it)43K miles
"You can have one in any color as long as it's black" - H. Ford
Sorry to hear about this. These are fine cars! Hard to guess about cost without knowing exactly what's required. Perhaps post a list of what the estimate shows for required items. Obviously you're looking at:
Fascia.
Hood.
Hood latch.
Headlamp.
Grille(s).
Radiator.
Condenser.
Probably the fiberglass panel that the headlamps bolt to.
Probably the tie bar across the top of the radiator/condenser.
Some of the sheet metal other than the hood will need some repair but probably not replacement (fender. etc).
Hood liners are no longer available but this isn't a significant problem.
May require some repairs to the forward lamp wiring harness.
Other miscellaneous support brackets/structures.
Bumper impact bar and/or bumper shocks.
It's going to be a few bucks.
Bose Luxury Sound System w/Touch Screen Navigation, Addition of Factory XM, 2005 MY Antenna, OnStar Upgrade (3G),
RainSense Wipers, Backup Camera, '00 Style Door Panel Courtesy Lights, Heated Washer Solvent, 2X Remote Trunk Release, Turn Signal Mirrors, Center Console Courtesy Lamp, Rear Outboard Heated Seats, PVD Chrome 18" Factory Rims, Upgraded
Carbon Fibre Appearance Interior Trim, Highly Modified Main Body Harness, Instrument Panel, Door, Door Panel & Headliner
Wiring Harnesses, Custom Fuse Box & Tire and Loading Information Decals, Additional Acoustic Insulation[/size][/color]
And the scary part is that is probably just enough visible damage to blow the total loss threshold, not even counting other damage under the hood.
Costs explode when airbags go.
Not to be negative, but I am also curious what the part out yield would be on this, if you are up for that sort of thing...
~Randall~
1993 Buick Park Avenue - 197k - Some odds and ends done - Simply won't die
1994 Buick Regal - 78k - Bone stock - Always ready for a good kicking
1990 Oldsmobile 88 - Gone to a better place
I didn't see anywhere that the airbags did inflate. I'd be interested to hear for sure. I'm not sure there's enough damage (or in the right location) that they would necessarily have been activated.
Bose Luxury Sound System w/Touch Screen Navigation, Addition of Factory XM, 2005 MY Antenna, OnStar Upgrade (3G),
RainSense Wipers, Backup Camera, '00 Style Door Panel Courtesy Lights, Heated Washer Solvent, 2X Remote Trunk Release, Turn Signal Mirrors, Center Console Courtesy Lamp, Rear Outboard Heated Seats, PVD Chrome 18" Factory Rims, Upgraded
Carbon Fibre Appearance Interior Trim, Highly Modified Main Body Harness, Instrument Panel, Door, Door Panel & Headliner
Wiring Harnesses, Custom Fuse Box & Tire and Loading Information Decals, Additional Acoustic Insulation[/size][/color]
Oh no!!! Just reading this thread, that SUCKS!! That was such a good looking car! Hopefully you'll be able to buy it back and put her back up to snuff. Good luck and glad everyone's alright.
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The air bags didn't deploy. The insurance company says I can buy back the car
for $300. That sounds like a no brainer for me.
If I can't fix it to my satisfaction, I will get rid of it (hey Andrew, here's another one for ya)
and hopefully get back anything I put into it.
The insurance guy did say the title must be changed to a salvage title.
Black 95 SSEi (original owner) 238K miles
Black 05 GXP (some idiot put the first 12K on it)186K miles
Black 04 Tahoe (original owner)310K miles
Black 16 Traverse (original owner)90K miles
Black 15 Lacrosse (some nice lady put first 15K on it)43K miles
"You can have one in any color as long as it's black" - H. Ford
You might be able to get a lot of the stuff you need (like the stuff Darcy listed) from Andrew (or a junkyard if you can find a similar car) since much of it isn't GXP-specific. If the paint is good on the rest of the car, you could get away with just painting the front clip and not worry quite so much about a perfect paint match. Might be worth considering repair.
Regardless of the extent of damage and quality of repair, a salvaged title will drastically reduce the resale value of the car - it did on my G8 - but I suspect you're not likely to be selling it any time soon so that's probably not an issue for you.
Or you could buy it back, sell it to someone who thinks he can fix it, and go find yourself a nice black G8.
gweg_b wrote:People think I'm nuts, but Matt proved it.
Two weeks ago I put a new hub, ball joint, tie rod and front
brakes on that car. I also have spark plugs, intake and throttle
gaskets in boxes waiting to install.
It was the car I own with the least mileage. My SSEi and Tahoe
both have over 230K on them.
"Why does it always rain on me?"
I think I will force my 16 year old to help me fix it as punishment, and
not let him drive any of the other vehicles until this one is back on the road.
Black 95 SSEi (original owner) 238K miles
Black 05 GXP (some idiot put the first 12K on it)186K miles
Black 04 Tahoe (original owner)310K miles
Black 16 Traverse (original owner)90K miles
Black 15 Lacrosse (some nice lady put first 15K on it)43K miles
"You can have one in any color as long as it's black" - H. Ford
That sucks buddy. I do know you've had a lot of problems with the car, but hopefully you guys can get it fixed up to your satisfaction.
Bye Bye: RIP sandrock
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