Whick Brand of Ignition would you use

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:46 am

Posting part numbers is foolhardy at best. There are a number of options to combine into a good replacement for the Magnavox. There really should be no confusion on this. Several dozen members since 2002 have successfully made this swap with any one of 3 or 4 combinations of coils. The ICM can come from any year.

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:54 am

willwren wrote:Posting part numbers is foolhardy at best. There are a number of options to combine into a good replacement for the Magnavox. There really should be no confusion on this. Several dozen members since 2002 have successfully made this swap with any one of 3 or 4 combinations of coils. The ICM can come from any year.

Wouldn't it be nice to post those part numbers so people like me wouldn't be scratching our heads wondering which combinations work, which ones don't and which ones have been the most successful? - BC

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:58 am

Nobody has ever had an issue with it before. When we give the advice (or they simply read the article) they know exactly what to go for.

I'm at a lost trying to figure out where the confusion comes from when we've been about 3x more detailed with your case than we've ever had to before. This isn't rocket science. Get the parts from a car as we described and bolt them on.

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:07 pm

willwren wrote: This isn't rocket science.

You could have fooled me. From this end it looked like ambiguity city. Even the guy at the JY implied as such.. LMAO! It’s different if you are familiar with something. You can make a lot of false assumptions about someone else’s knowledge level. Anyway, the part can sometime yesterday and I still have yet to recover from yesterday. I can't wait to "slap on the 'hot fired' iginiton". I'll let you know if I can follow your instructions or not - lol, oh, we've been down that road before LMAO!!! - BC

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:56 am

Okay. I tried to install the ignition system sent to me and the ICM won't bolt to the ICM bracket I have. I read the instructions written by Jrs3800 again. My question is, would it be best to get the correct bracket and change it, or get the ICM that will fit the ICM bracket from the old Magnavox system? and by the way Bill, sorry, but I do have difficulty grasping things mentally and sorry about it getting "under your skin". I just hope when you get to be an old broken down buzzard like me it doesn't happen to you. I also hope that you can laugh with me when I am self deprecating. lol - BC

renchjeep · Post by **renchjeep** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:14 am

Not to step in on this, but I would get the later model bracket. Then the whole deal would be a "bolt-in", right?

I am looking forward to doing the same upgrade on my 94 SE, when I can find reliable parts to do so.

Anyone have the parts I need? Or a reliable source for these parts, besides a junkyard. After all, those cars are in the boneyard for a reason, and I do not wish to "inheret" someone else's problems.

Thanks--Chris

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:35 am

renchjeep wrote:Not to step in on this, but I would get the later model bracket. Then the whole deal would be a "bolt-in", right?

I am looking forward to doing the same upgrade on my 94 SE, when I can find reliable parts to do so.

Anyone have the parts I need? Or a reliable source for these parts, besides a junkyard. After all, those cars are in the boneyard for a reason, and I do not wish to "inheret" someone else's problems.

Thanks--Chris

Thanks Chris. Try Martin aka "olblueeyesbonne". He was good enough to help. - BC

Post by **Jrs3800** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:45 am

1oldman wrote:Okay. I tried to install the ignition system sent to me and the ICM won't bolt to the ICM bracket I have. I read the instructions written by Jrs3800 again. My question is, would it be best to get the correct bracket and change it, or get the ICM that will fit the ICM bracket from the old Magnavox system? and by the way Bill, sorry, but I do have difficulty grasping things mentally and sorry about it getting "under your skin". I just hope when you get to be an old broken down buzzard like me it doesn't happen to you. I also hope that you can laugh with me when I am self deprecating. lol - BC

Are you missing the aluminum plate under the ICM with the 3 bolts sticking out?

Post by **Jrs3800** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:48 am

1oldman wrote:Okay. I tried to install the ignition system sent to me and the ICM won't bolt to the ICM bracket I have. I read the instructions written by Jrs3800 again. My question is, would it be best to get the correct bracket and change it, or get the ICM that will fit the ICM bracket from the old Magnavox system? and by the way Bill, sorry, but I do have difficulty grasping things mentally and sorry about it getting "under your skin". I just hope when you get to be an old broken down buzzard like me it doesn't happen to you. I also hope that you can laugh with me when I am self deprecating. lol - BC

Are you missing the aluminum plate under the ICM with the 3 bolts sticking out?

This is what you have to have

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:59 am

renchjeep wrote:Not to step in on this, but I would get the later model bracket. Then the whole deal would be a "bolt-in", right?

I am looking forward to doing the same upgrade on my 94 SE, when I can find reliable parts to do so.

Anyone have the parts I need? Or a reliable source for these parts, besides a junkyard. After all, those cars are in the boneyard for a reason, and I do not wish to "inheret" someone else's problems.

Thanks--Chris

Your 94 already has the Delco ignition and proper bracket with the ICM. The only change for you would be to go to the hotter 97 and newer L67 coils. Nothing else needs to be done.

The 92 in question has an older magnavox 'brick' which combined 3 coils into one and had weaker spark voltage and a less reliable ICM. Most of this conversation doesn't relate to your car, rench.

renchjeep · Post by **renchjeep** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:44 am

willwren wrote:
renchjeep wrote:Not to step in on this, but I would get the later model bracket. Then the whole deal would be a "bolt-in", right?

I am looking forward to doing the same upgrade on my 94 SE, when I can find reliable parts to do so.

Anyone have the parts I need? Or a reliable source for these parts, besides a junkyard. After all, those cars are in the boneyard for a reason, and I do not wish to "inheret" someone else's problems.

Thanks--Chris
Your 94 already has the Delco ignition and proper bracket with the ICM. The only change for you would be to go to the hotter 97 and newer L67 coils. Nothing else needs to be done.

The 92 in question has an older magnavox 'brick' which combined 3 coils into one and had weaker spark voltage and a less reliable ICM. Most of this conversation doesn't relate to your car, rench.

So the ICM is the same as later models, but the coils are hotter. I get it. All I need are the later S2 coils. Anyone have a known good set "laying around"? I just don't trust untested junkyard parts from high-mileage cars.

Thanks again, and sorry to drag this out so long......

Chris

00Beast · Post by **00Beast** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:03 pm

I'd guess that haro has 10 sets of S2 L67 coils.

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:25 am

The bracket for the "brick" Magnavox Ignition System is different than the bracket for the newer ignition system I now have. I located what I think is the correct bracket, but am not sure.

AC Delco Ignition Coil Bracket PART#: AC10469468 MFR#: 10469468
http://www.partstrain.com/store/details ... 69468.html

Thanks - BC

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:02 am

Go get a bracket from a 93-94 Bonneville, LeSabre, Olds 88 or 98, or Park Avenue at the wrecker.

1oldman · Post by **1oldman** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:18 pm

willwren wrote:Go get a bracket from a 93-94 Bonneville, LeSabre, Olds 88 or 98, or Park Avenue at the wrecker.

wilco, Thanks - BC

Dads Toy · Post by **Dads Toy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:52 pm

I've been ready this thread and have a question. I have a 96' SE 3800 series II, do I already have the ungraded coil packs? or should a 02' yr swap be in order? Reason asking I am on my second set of igntion wires. For some reason I am burning up ignition wires or it could be I am still getting the OEM wires for my 96'.

00Beast · Post by **00Beast** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:32 pm

Yes. All 3800's since 1993 have had the Delco ICM with 3 individual coils.

Burning out wires does not equal bad coils. Try Belden Premium wires from NAPA. Just be sure to keep the receipt, as some stores won't warranty them w/o it.

Dads Toy · Post by **Dads Toy** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:49 am

Roger that on the receipt. I do think a better quality set of wires would do the job. I'll check em' out and see if they make a difference.

00Beast wrote:Yes. All 3800's since 1993 have had the Delco ICM with 3 individual coils.

Burning out wires does not equal bad coils. Try Belden Premium wires from NAPA. Just be sure to keep the receipt, as some stores won't warranty them w/o it.

willwren · Post by **willwren** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:43 am

You may get a slight benefit from going to the somewhat-hotter L67 coils from 97 to 03.

atom · Post by **atom** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:01 am

willwren wrote:You may get a slight benefit from going to the somewhat-hotter L67 coils from 97 to 03.

Prompt what to buy ICM
There is no spark on 1-4 cylinders

Prompt what to search? 97-03

my car 1993 SSEi vin1

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