good opportunity or not? pics inside 56k warning

[tpulliam79]

well I have not had a bonneville for some time now,
i have a chance to buy a supercharged 91 sse, guy has almost has it done just needs wiring to pcm finished, the engine is a series one supercharged.. heres what he emailed me

" I have to make room in my garage so the car has to go.I was doing my own converting to supercharged and lost interest. It has rebuilt heads with three angle grind for more flow supercharger has new cuplier.Trans has less than 40K original. The car is in great shape but the wiring is half converted to the new pcm."

i am hoping to go look at it tomorrow but it looks to be in really good shape., what should I look for when checking it out? is the supercharged engine going to burn the trans up? etc. thanks

[willwren]

Take it by the numbers:

92 would be the least desirable in terms of performance, but the 92/93 years would be easier to wire.
All 4 possible years for the donor motor would require a VATS bypass.
Finishing the wiring would require FSM's from the donor PCM year and the 91 body year.
Make sure he has a PCM that matches the donor year. 92/93 pcm's will not run a 94/95 efficiently.
Ask what was done to the trans 40k ago, and where it came from. The 91 doesn't use a 4T60E, so there's some odd slush in kickdown/shifting possible with the wrong combination.
If the axle ratio of the SSE (if it's the stock 4T60 non-E) is a 3.33 (GX3 RPO? look it up to be sure), the L67 PCM won't shift right without reprogramming.
Ask for some type of documentation on the head job. Heads will gain you a little but without valvetrain mods (cam/rockers) it won't gain you as much as you think. See if more work was done.

Make sure he didn't 'lose interest' when he found out he had the wrong combination of parts and pieces.

[tpulliam79]

very good advice bill, i will be sure to ask all those questions and do a little research, , If it all works out I think I can get it for about $500.. we will see.

[Boss455]

Funny thing is that I saw that ad and thought of you Taylor! Looks like it has the 92-93 engine based on the supercharger and pulley. Would be a cool car but I just wonder what killed his ambition? Wiring can be a nightmare.

[tpulliam79]

Funny thing is that I saw that ad and thought of you Taylor! Looks like it has the 92-93 engine based on the supercharger and pulley. Would be a cool car but I just wonder what killed his ambition? Wiring can be a nightmare.

yes wiring can be a nightmare, but it may be something that I can slowly work on in the spare time I have ( if doc doesnt put me back under the knife.) i need a project, ever since I had to part with my other bonnie I have been in and out of cars about every6-8 months. maybe if I have a project I wont be as apt to switch cars as often

[tpulliam79]

ok so the engine is from a 92 tranny also pcm too, need pas key wired in , or is that what the vats bypass is, also needs transmission wires to pcm ( part is already done) all the wiring from the instrument panel also needs to be done. still needs the newer fuel pump put in which i assume would need wired differently than the 91. does this sound like feasible amount of work? for those who know me , you guys think its something I could do with the help of the club ? i wouldnt be getting it till fri but am trying to decide if the work is possible.i am going to look at it today either way.

[willwren]

You will need the L67 fuel pump without question, but it shouldn't be a problem to wire in.

FSM's would be the key to your success. It might not be possible to get all dash functionality, but you would at least get the critical gauges.

[tpulliam79]

looked at it today, its in very good shape , especially for a 91, he seems to have all the heavy work done, dash is off so i can get directly to wiring, hes pretty firm on $800 though, wiring is definitely not my strong point but he is gonna throw in the 91 fsms , if I buy the car, so then id just need the wiring section out of a 92,... a lot of wiring to be done but the expensive stuff is done, also has a 70 mm throttle body, which i may switch back to stock. think the price is high?

[willwren]

A 70mm throttle body won't do you any good unless you bore out the inlet to the M62. That Gen2 has a tiny SC inlet. Or did he bore it already and have an adapter plate made?

There are some quirks in wiring between 92 and 93, but driverjohn has 92 FSM's, and my 93 would cover a good bit with some risk.

It all comes down to the quality of the drivetrain. Crank that motor through by hand for starters.

[driverjohn2005]

You know u got my help and I'll be insulted if you don't ask

It would be a helluva fun project!

[tpulliam79]

You know u got my help and I'll be insulted if you don't ask

It would be a helluva fun project!

good to hear I was gonna hit you up. I am about 90% im getting it, I already started cleaning out the garage

[myfirstbonnie]

You know this IS going to open you up to a few mini-meets to ...............GIT-R-DONE.............and I expect an invite.

[driverjohn2005]

You know u got my help and I'll be insulted if you don't ask

It would be a helluva fun project!

good to hear I was gonna hit you up. I am about 90% im getting it, I already started cleaning out the garage

Where is it located at?

[tpulliam79]

it's here in the valley

[driverjohn2005]

Update?

[tpulliam79]

after much thought and consideration , I have decided to get the car,once i get my taxes. so he will tow it over sometime next week hopefully. I am super excited to get into this thing. i will definitely update and confirm once i have the car. so many different ideas already brewing

[Boss455]

I always thought those were pretty sharp cars when they came out in the late 80's. Gonna be a pretty slick ride! Congrats!

[tpulliam79]

I am pretty excited about getting started, I am going to examine a few options on the witing, I thought about getting a 92/93 cluster and modifying the dash, but am not that familiar with the 91 style yet so im not sure how well that would work, oh yeah my wife is behind me on this one , in hopes that i will quit switching cars every 6 months if I have a project

[tpulliam79]

woot woot, should have the car in my garage by wednesday. woo hoo I am very excited and i also smell a mini meet in the future

[gonzo4191]