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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:38 pm 
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I will be overhauling a 4T65e-HD transmission in the near future and wanted to post some pics for you guys. Hope you like it.

After a bath from my pressure washer. Note the plugs at the axle shaft output and vent. All openings should be capped, plugged or sealed in some manner to keep water out when pressure washing. The torque converter was installed when pressure washing to keep water out. There will come a time that the case can be pressure washed inside and out, but that is at a much later stage in the process.
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Imagine that, a broken front mount!
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 Post subject: Re: 4T65E-HD Rebuild
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Drain the torque converter. This will take a few hours to drain, overnight is best.
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A trans overhaul will make a mess! Have a clean work area with lots of room to store all the parts that come out of it. A fluid containment work bench works best, but not many folks have one.
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Remove brackets, sensors and fill tube.
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Mark the stud bolts
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Clean the crud out of the torx bolts
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Remove the side case
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Sometimes the torx bolts round and you need to chisel them loose.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:03 pm 
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Remove wirring harness
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Remove pump cover, or assembly if preferred, it will be gone through later.
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Remove pump assembly
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This is the channel plate after the valve body is removed
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Note the location of the check balls
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Remove the pump drive
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This is after the channel plate is removed
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Make sure to keep track of locator pins, they are very important and can not be left out.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:31 pm 
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Up to this point, have you used any special tools or pullers?
Good pictures.
Does everything come out together with the pump cover? I see plungers and solenoids.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:48 pm 
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To this point, there have been no special tools. Unless you consider torx or chisels "special". The pump cover does not hold everything. It comes apart in 3 main layers, the pump, then the valve body, then the channel plate.


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Remove the chain, sprockets and related parts
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The torque converter lock up o-ring must be removed prior to input shaft removal
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After chain and sprocket removal
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Remove oil baffles
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Pan removal
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Remove the filter
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Remove the spring from the anti bleed valve
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Remove the clip from the lube tube
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:03 pm 
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After apply piston and accumulator pack removal
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Spotted the first big problem, a broken land on a band
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Remove the apply piston cover
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You may need to tap the c-clip to spin it a little
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Push down on the cover to get more access to the clip
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Removing the guts
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Still no special tools to this point.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:21 pm 
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A nice stack of parts, all of which need to be broken down further, inspected and repaired/replaced as needed
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A burned up band
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And the drum it rides on
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Here is that broken band land. This is not the band that burned
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Behind door number 2...
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This doesn't look stock to me, I assume it was the cause of or attempted solution to the broken band land
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A shot of the differential
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Remove this roll pin and plug to replace the o-ring seal inside
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:37 pm 
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Another shot of "the pile"
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Remove the remaining seals
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Use a long, sharp chisel to collaps the seal in on itself. Be careful of the soft aluminum case
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A seal puller for the converter seal (the first special tool used (and it's still not that special)
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Remove the converter hub if you want, generally you will not need to
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:39 pm 
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Seems pretty straightforward so far.
I can see the trick will be remembering the sequence and order of all the parts on re-assembly.

You've done this before a few times haven't you. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:58 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:11 am 
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Keep going cowboy. I'm liking what I see so far. I know how hard it is to stop and take pictures as you work without getting caught up in the moment and skip tricky moves.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:37 am 
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1fatcat wrote:
This doesn't look stock to me, I assume it was the cause of or attempted solution to the broken band land
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My mistake. That washer is stock. I guess the band just broke from fatigue.


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Very Good thread!! Still not something I would want to tackle unless a pro was standing right there, but cool to see that someone can do it, lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:46 am 
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Confidence Ed, confidence.
You can DO anything.

I would do it, if it was a spare salvaged trani, but probably not if it was my DD and I needed it working in a hurry. :wink:

More pics 1fatcat....more pics!! :banana: :banana:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:52 am 
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I sure hope there are more posts before I start reassembling. It would suck to load MORE pictures on page 1 :-" (takes forever to open).


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:07 pm 
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Yes it does surprise me that more members are not asking more questions and getting involved with this interesting post.

:stupid:

Maybe an admin is able to roll this to page 2. :???:

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I am interested in more ways than 1.

First, I hope it goes to the second page because I run IE8 in protected modes and it has to download the pics each time I go to the post.
Second, I hope to be getting involved with the post.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:22 pm 
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Ya Travis, you put on enough mileage to rebuild one of these trani's every couple years. :laughing3:

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......and it's still on Page 1 :angry4:

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