Anyone running a shift kit? If so which one; intense or ZZP. Any input is good. thanks.

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I was going to run an Intense one, but then I had other issues w/ my tranny (not related, but extrememly coincidental), so it got taken out, and I'm kind of stuck right now.

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Intense. Mine was easy to install, and is great

I went with the ZZP kit (kinda on a budget w/my trip and all)

I can't wait to feel it.

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Jacob, Dark Green 1997 SSEi "The Green Lantern" Over 268,000 Miles and Still Going Strong!

Mods/Stuff: INTENSE! FWI, ScanGauge 2, Mobil 1 HM Oil, Valvoline HM Transmission Fluid, Mildly Tuned PCM, Drilled 180 Thermostat, Cleared Corners, Silverstars, Chrome T-Stars, NGK Iridium Plugs, NAPA Belden Wires.

Are the Intense or ZZP kits specific to 4T65-Es? Your 4T60 may require a different kit. I've got a TransGo kit and I like it. Shifts are quick and firm. Unlike my torque nannied G8's A6.

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WHITE WHINE - 1992 SSE Supercharged 236.26 ci (.040 Over) 15.090 at 90.2 MPH on old engine w/ slipping trans & melted O2 sensor - Gen 3 M62 and matching TB, Gen 2 Pully, Zillamotorsports Ported LIM, YT 1.72 Roller Rockers, SII FPR & Injectors, Hypertech Thermomaster chip w/ 160 Thermo, TransGo Shift Kit, Infinity/Pioneer Speakers & a 10" Alpine Type R Sub, all the watts, 140 amp Alternator, Ricepipe CAI w/ heatshield, Pilot Angel Eye Foglights, Clear Corners, '02 17" Chrome Bent 5's, Magnaflow F-Body Muffler and Hi-flo Cat, Ceramic Coated Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Fan Override, Monroe Reflex struts, red calipers
2009 G8 GT - Sport Red Metallic, loaded, SOLO Axlebacks, Rotofab Intake, Tuned, autodim mirror, removed intake manifold cover, HSV GTS triple gauge pod, two tone red-hot shifter and HSV SuperSport steering wheel, GXP rear sway bar and diffuser, 3.45 diff and various Camaro suspension bits, LED Taillights

Would you trade it for a stick?


Edit...wrong kit.

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2000 SSEi - SilverBullet - 78,000 kms, 4" "straight shot" custom headlight ram air inlet, TOGs, 1.9's, Lsd, 2.9-3.4"MPS 10-15 psi, Ported GenV, EGR eliminated, OR pushrods, oil volume kit, trani cooler & shift kit, Titanium retainers, 90 lb springs, 160 Stat, 42# injectors, Fuel pump voltage increase, Wideband O2, 3" to dual 2 1/2" Magnaflows, Snow Meth/water injection, after SC temp gauge, 255/50WR17, timing commander set 15-18*@WOT, 2 speed Fan over-ride, disabled DRL, Solid motor mount, Meziere Electric water pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Drilled & slotted rotors/ceramics, GXP sway bars and STB, Upgraded and rebuilt transmission with ZZP 2500 rpm stall TC, Pioneer Bluetooth stereo with sub and 800 W amps, PB 13.5 quarter, (April 2014 car of the month)

I used the Intense kit and it works very nicely. How do you know that spring is "properly calibrated"? Saying things like that with nothing to back it up can influence others to make the same purchase based solely on your opinion. Upon further investigation the ZZP kit uses shims too so i don't where you got that idea from.

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what car is this for? neither the zzp or intense will work for either of the two cars in your sig.

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Wo, wo, wo back up the train. What is this? I got a ZZP kit and all it had in it was the shims, nothing else. No springs. Is this new?

By the way I made my own for about $1.00 and it has been working perfectly for about two years, as well as about four or five others that I made and installed in club members cars over here.

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2000 SLE

Roll your own? Please, do tell!

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2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco - Current car

1999 Buick LeSabre Custom - Former car

Learn from the mistakes of others, that way when you mess up you can do so in new and interesting ways.

I had a ZZP shift kit in my Riviera transmission . I liked it...but after spending $35 on plastic shims I felt a little jipt. I am doing what jared did and making a DIY kit this time for a few dollars. I will upload a link tomarrow to those who are interested.

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2002 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi

"Any man who could manage such a feat I would not dare disappoint ... she'll launch on time sir ... and she'll be ready."

Thanks!

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2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco - Current car

1999 Buick LeSabre Custom - Former car

Learn from the mistakes of others, that way when you mess up you can do so in new and interesting ways.

Both oil volume kits I purchased from ZZP and installed in my 2000 SSEi and 1994 SSEi.
Edit - Sorry wrong topic..

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2000 SSEi - SilverBullet - 78,000 kms, 4" "straight shot" custom headlight ram air inlet, TOGs, 1.9's, Lsd, 2.9-3.4"MPS 10-15 psi, Ported GenV, EGR eliminated, OR pushrods, oil volume kit, trani cooler & shift kit, Titanium retainers, 90 lb springs, 160 Stat, 42# injectors, Fuel pump voltage increase, Wideband O2, 3" to dual 2 1/2" Magnaflows, Snow Meth/water injection, after SC temp gauge, 255/50WR17, timing commander set 15-18*@WOT, 2 speed Fan over-ride, disabled DRL, Solid motor mount, Meziere Electric water pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Drilled & slotted rotors/ceramics, GXP sway bars and STB, Upgraded and rebuilt transmission with ZZP 2500 rpm stall TC, Pioneer Bluetooth stereo with sub and 800 W amps, PB 13.5 quarter, (April 2014 car of the month)

I disagree to a point. Spring rate and spring force are different ratings of a device. Preloading a spring intentionally can have a desired effect. To that end, there is no advantage or disadvantage to either ZZP's or INTENSE's shift kits or oil pressure kits (the later is inferred in Paul's post above).

Preloading a spring to a certain point, when the spring has predictable and limited travel in operation, does have a positive desired effect.

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We are talking about shift kits here, not oil pressure kits

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2000 SLE

You know this makes a lot of sense now that I think about it and you explain that again. I always wondered why Intense included different springs in their kit. But now I understand the difference since the springs aren't traveling as far it will change the desired effect. However, if you are doing a full kit then wouldn't it eliminate the springs all together? That is why you are shimming it. The springs is then no longer compressed in the accumulator from what I understand after talking to Thomas about this one.

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2000 SLE

GoldenBullet: This will be for my 89 T-type which I am installing a 98 Park Ave. L67 with the 4T65E-HD (98 SSEi computer and wiring harness, not that it matters here).

I looked at the intense kit it has:
5 custom accumulator piston springs
3 custom flat spacers
8 custom cylindrical spacers
sandpaper to smooth accumulator gasket surface for improved mating
new accumulator gasket
abrasive pad to scuff accumulator bores for increased oil on bore walls
2 new piston seals
new transaxle filter
transmission assembly lubricant
extremely detailed installation instructions with full color images explaining how to inspect your transaxle pan contents, and properly prepare the accumulator cover, accumulator pistons and piston pins.

The ZZP kit has:
Four options of shifting firmness
USA made filter included
Easy to follow instructions
No special tools required

now I am not opposed to a DIY kit especially if it is the same thing for a lot less money, but I do not want to mess up my tranny. So far seems a even draw...$130 or $30

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I do believe you are referring to oil pressure kits and not our shift paks.

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Like I said, I've been running my own made shift kit Full Stage bang scretch for over two years now and I have installed about four others made by my hand almost in that long. I make about 60 track passes a year on it. Stock tranny and about 270WHP last couple years. Doing good still. Until this year of course when it will probably take a crap on me (knock on wood)

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2000 SLE

I take it that you just make your own shims at a specific size... I am not looking for a dash jolting constant tire chirping effect but just quick shifts.

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